Gay men and Pheromones

[Zet]

Just found a very fascinating article about Gay men and Pheromones. It seems (Atleast according to National Geographic) that gay Male actually gets attracted to other mens scents unlike other men who is drawn to Estrogen, meaning that there has to be a connection between the brain activity and sexual orientation, and by with that being gay is biological and not a matter of choice. What do you think? Would love to hear others opinions on this matter :)

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[QueenOdi]

Is that why gay men(and straight) with more estrogen are less desirable to gay men and straight women?

What does estrogen and testosterone smell like? Someone said to me that, the muskier you smell, the more testosterone you produce and the more man-like you are.

This is interesting, if it's true I've never noticed. I don't think I conciously sniff people :p .

[pellaz]

Someone said to me that, the muskier you smell, the more testosterone you produce and the more man-like you are.amount of smell relates to what you ate drink and hygiene habits.

a nice read but if this were verifiable true everyone would be doing it ( except Catholics )

[Zet]

I have no Idea, but according to the Article is that Gay men are particular drawn to other Gay men, If I did not miss read it, but yes they are less desirable to women.

Frankly I don't know how Estrogen or Testosterone smell like, but I guess like animals, that Pheromones are a substance that doesn't necessarily smell that much but gets into the head and makes you turned on. :)

But I really have no idea, its an article, can be true, can be bullshit :) Why I want others opinions :) Have you gotten turned on by some kind of smell sometime?

[QueenOdi]

amount of smell relates to what you ate drink and hygiene habits.

a nice read but if this were verifiable true everyone would be doing it ( except Catholics )

Interesting :) , I didn't know food and what you drink affects the body that way.

I have no Idea, but according to the Article is that Gay men are particular drawn to other Gay men, If I did not miss read it, but yes they are less desirable to women.

Frankly I don't know how Estrogen or Testosterone smell like, but I guess like animals, that Pheromones are a substance that doesn't necessarily smell that much but gets into the head and makes you turned on. :smile:

But I really have no idea, its an article, can be true, can be bullshit :smile: Why I want others opinions :smile: Have you gotten turned on by some kind of smell sometime?

Hmm... ;)

I've personally never had this reaction to my knowledge, and I don't think I've ever been turned on by someones smell :p .

I'm more of a visual and intellectual person.

A strange thing I do when first meet someone, is deconstruct and analyze their facial structure and sometimes their body, but mostly just the face. I've been doing this for as long as I can remember, and it's not that uncommon, but I find that a person's facial structure can tell me all I need to know about someone, even how they think sometimes.

I prefer "reading" people, rather than smelling them and once I've read them, I determine wether or not they can be compatible with me, as either a friend or otherwise. This isn't always the case, as one of my closest friends wasn't a supposed match for me, but she and I are now good friends.

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[Zet]

I don't think its normal to sniff people, we aren't dogs :biggrin:

But just chemistry, something unexplainable, from that I've understood you don't pick up the smell, just the substance that the Pheromone is of and it gets you attracted somehow :)

[pellaz]

sometimes the greeting after work we hug, i smell the boy. All i can do is put him down on the bed and make out. I love being gay.

[pellaz]

like 3-5% of alcohol gets secreted through the skin, a lot to be said for better quality vodka. Dogs can smell and detect visual motion 10x better. Beyond that tho they have a monochrome and a ??tendency to be near sighted.

[Pix]

I know I'm more likely to get turned on by the smell of another woman than by looking at her. (Yeah, yeah, I know the whole smelling thing is kinda gross. :tongue: )

[zeon]

Hello,
I hjave often found in life that people are drawn to what desires them from within... The problem with reasearch into what finds us attractive to others is that people often find the answers to be incorrect because we are drawn to what our instincts tell us looks nice... Some people for arguments sake are dead skinny and highly fit and attractive yet will only go for over 60's whereas you get guys that are mid thirties and over weight getting pulled by other over weight guys and the list can continue on... I find that whatever we are drawn to if we all opened up what ticks our boxes we would see a vast contrast of things...

Kindest regards

zeon x

[Rainbowmum]

I agree it has to be biological .

[Wombat]

I was definitely born gay and I think all my gay friends would agree they were as well.

I can find a woman sexy and I can even enjoy watching straight and lesbian porn but I have absolutely no desire to have sex with a woman.

I am sure pheromones play a part in sexual attraction but I doubt I can smell any of the guys I masturbate to over the internet so in my case I couldn't say pheromones play too important a part in sexual attraction for me.
I believe that smell in a much underrated sense when it comes to sexual attractiveness because I'm convinced that it is a very primal sense and triggers things in our brains that we aren't even conscious of. I know for myself that a whiff of a guy with the right body chemistry will have me getting juicy even though the guy in question might not be "my type".

I have a bi friend who loves guys and girls equally and he is always going on about how he loves the smell of a woman but he has never said he likes the smell of a man lol. Maybe he's really just a horny bugger who gets it from wherever he can ;)

[Nick9]

Have you gotten turned on by some kind of smell sometime?

Definitely. Sense of smell is as important to me as eyesight. :)

[Nightowl86]

I must smell like a woman all the time.

[DerJack]

Pellaz is right that one's scent can be affected by their diet... for example those who ingest a lot of garlic tend to smell lightly of it, much in the same way heavily-intoxicated people have a tendency to smell of alcohol. However, there is definitely a strong component of scent which is made biologically, considering the main points where we sweat from are huge hormonal glands.

As to whether or not I 'sniff' people out... no, but trust me, if you pay attention you'll realize that there are friends of yours or houses you visit that have certain scents... and believe it or not, your brain recognizes them on some level... perhaps the smell of your house makes you feel relaxed and at ease.... or you're confused when you come home after a long while and your parents have started placing 'good-smelly-things' all over the house, so it doesn't feel quite like the same place anymore... they actually say that smell is very strongly tied to memory, and personally I know what that means... there's a number of smells which mean very specific things to me from throughout my life.

I can also think of off the top of my head more or less what women smell like (not very appealing, but not altogether offensive), what men smell like (often quite intoxicatingly sweet, and yes I suppose musky). I'd really recommend you think more consciously of your nose more than you rely on your eyes for a bit, simply for growing that sense more... simple mindfulness is the greatest teacher, so give your nose a break and see what it's actually capable of!!! :biggrin:

In direct relation to your question, I had this friends in school, who was a really good friend and he always had this smell about him, I loved it, and then I moved in with him for the summer... his whole house smelled like him!! It was amazing and probably a large reason why I had such a relaxing summer living there... he even handed a bunch of clothes down to me... they definitely smelled like him too... and it's been difficult washing them with time, because his scent slowly fades from them. I went back to visit about a month ago and as soon as I crossed the threshold I could feel the amazing feel of calm and pure relaxation just washing over me... all thanks to his magnificent smell... hehe :smile:

Lastly, I like this bit: "This, incidentally, is not in any way controversial for biologists," Hamer said. "It's completely expected from the basic tenets of biology. It's only controversial because of the social and political controversy over homosexuality." Because I've always felt, and I would say this forum gives evidence of it well, that we are born gay (to clarify this evidence I speak of is all the posts on 'well I've been interested in guys for years, but just been holding back'... as opposed to the lack of posts saying 'hey, I just decided to be gay what should I do next?')... and furthermore, no I don't feel that we exhibit homosexuality in childhood.. at that point there is either lack in sexuality (infantile) or overt sexuality based on hormones which I believe to be 'pansexual' in nature (puberty)) I think it only really clarifies itself through puberty.. and I for one am very excited to have been born this way.