Bareback

[nwwm]

if I was ever in a relationship with a man, there's just no way I could resist it after so long. but I'll never do it unless I know they're clean. all hookups require a condom

[Rumble88]

I want to ask about HIV and how can you catch it? Kissing your partner? If lets say you want to please your partner with your mouth. Is ıt okay, does HIV only spreads with uum.. back way? And can using a condom protect you from HIV?

[BobInTampa]

Rumble:

HIV is trasmitted by blood and semen - not kissing. Now, the only exception to this would be if you were with a man who was bleeding in the mouth (either by accident and/or had oral surgury) but there has to be an open wound in the mouth for their to be a risk of HIV transmission.

The only 100% way to prevent contracting HIV is to NOT have sex (oral or anal) until you're in a 100% monogamous LTR and you've both been tested 2 times in a 3 month period.

Condoms are great for "safer" sex, but they are NOT 100% (especially if a condom breaks, or it's put on improperly or if you have bareback sex before you put on the condom).

Some men perfer using condoms during oral sex, and that barrier can help but again, only total abstainence is the way to prevent contracting HIV or HEP C, HPV, or any other number of STDs.

(note: mutual masturbation is safer as well).

[pellaz]

Originally Posted by BobInTampa

... The only 100% way to prevent contracting HIV is to NOT have sex (oral or anal) until you're in a 100% monogamous LTR and you've both been tested 2 times in a 3 month period. ...

i thought this was a minimum testing schedule to start a Monogamous relationship. You might want to get tested X times over a 4-6mo time frame. W-whatever, its your body.
Just look at how sensitive the test your getting is and how long the HIV antibodies need to grow in your body to reach that detectable level.

For me it's know my partner and, 2 negative tests, one at 2 months in and, another a six months in and, no anal penetration until the first test is done - there are toys for that in the meantime. I have yet to have a partner come back negative on the first and positive on the second test. ( And I am negative on everything.)

Kissing is a minute risk, but there are times you don't want to kiss unless you know your partner is clean. For a few weeks after having a tooth pulled, filled, after oral surgery, for a few days after a dental cleaning (just in case the hygienist accidentally made your gums bleed a tiny bit.), if you bite your tongue or cheek, etc...

[Rumble88]

So when i met someone who has pottencial to have a sexual life with me; im gonna ask him for tests and gonna have my own. And we're not gonna even kiss for 3 month? tests okay but 3 month without any kind of physcial contact?

[pellaz]

ya; you still should get tested once twice a year through your health insurance. Share the results with your partner.

have some sort of channel to talk about these things. I mean if you cheat on your partner; can you tell your partner your sorry. And we gave to start using a condom for the next few months? Or just keep shut about it and continue with him not knowing for at least 2-4weeks minimum. take him with you right?

[Rumble88]

okay before i go to college im gonna get tested. I hope other people can too. But you can't ask someone do you have HIV or show me your test results? Its rude.

You can kiss, just make sure neither of you have any open wounds or sores in your mouth, no big deal. As for being rude, if he thinks it's rude to want to stay healthy and, alive, then do you really want to be with him?

It isn't rude to be prudent. I don't ask for test results on day one, but if we are going to hook up, I do ask if they have anything I need to know about and, I still use protection - usually latex but, they will tell you if they are allergic to it and, you need to use lamb skin instead. And if, after a few weeks it looks like it's going to work I do bring up testing and, offer to pay for theirs when we go together to get it done.

[Rumble88]

okay blue thank you so much for clearing that up

[Bowyn Aerrow]

Originally Posted by Buffylo

Wait... he tested positive before then stopped testing positive? say what?

No he failed the HIV tests when were first got together - he tested negative - no HIV, then suddenly he started passing the test - tested positive.

HIV is the only test you want to fail - as in get a negative score in.

I was attempting to use humor to hide my horror. It didn't work well.

[Bowyn Aerrow]

Originally Posted by Blue

I'm the KNOW it group, but, that's based on having been a long haul truck driver and, having a partner meaning we drove as a team and were literally together 24/7/365. As close to apart as we ever got was different stalls in the same public bathroom. Okay not quite but we were never apart more than a few minutes when one or the other would go into a building, either to check in with a customer or, to get something, or use the restroom in a truck stop or rest area.

Yeah if I were to date again, it's either be latex or he'd have to be a 100% homebody that only wanted to leave the house if I went with him. Of course I guess that would all change if I had a terminal disease like cancer, or when I get too old and decrepit to care if I live or die. *shrug* just me.

Wow, that sounds like it would be either a wonderful relationship or the worst one on earth - Um being in a truck and going everywhere all the time with each other.

Homebodies can receive visitors. Now days there is the Internets I understand you can pretty much order men on line and they can be sent to your front door....

Mind I'm not trying to steal your joy here, I'm jaded by it all because someone betrayed my trust (big time betrayal actually) so I am suspicious, even of those who you keep locked up in the dungeon

Its a reflection on me - men, can't trust them as a far as you can throw them. No, not even that far....

[pellaz]

Originally Posted by Rumble88

okay before i go to college im gonna get tested. I hope other people can too. But you can't ask someone do you have HIV or show me your test results? Its rude.

you are in a none accepting environment but you can do more for yourself, get tested today, get a test at home kit.

it is not rude to demand test results. Also talk about previous boy friends and life style is in order. be rude and you too can spread the hiv.

Both wonderful and horrible. Yes it's great when things are going smooth, but when you live in the cab of an 18 wheeler that will be 600 miles or more away from where it started by the time you go to sleep and wake up again, there is no such thing as your own space. You can't take a walk to cool off after an argument, you have to fix it then and there.

There are a lot of time when you have to share the bed, and it is a small bed (super single size at most). Even if it's 90 degrees in the cab, you had to unload the trailer yourselves so, you are hot and sweaty, and smelly and, you can't get to a shower before morning, you don't have a choice, you cuddle up and try to sleep.

But, you never have to wonder what you partner is up to, interested in, if he's safe, if he's upset with you or not, or that he took your wallet and is going to spend all your money. He's there to talk with anytime you want to talk, and if you aren't into the same things, you soon will be simply for something interesting to talk about. You will try watching movies and tv shows you probably wouldn't have if you had been able to go do something else and, you find out you like things you didn't know you liked. And you get really good a diffusing and resolving conflicts before they escalate into a shouting match.

And you know what, in the end all of that doesn't prevent betrayal. 9 years of that and I get diagnosed with diabetes so, can't drive and what do I get? A rather cold "Been good, been fun, keep the shiny side up and I'l catch you on the flip flop." (trucker for "It's over but I still want to be friends.") And we had discussed what would happen if either of us was unable to drive, the deal was that the one that couldn't drive anymore would stay on the truck as a full time passenger.

Well, you see that "Single" over there <----