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Old 13th January 2011   #16
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I kind of think of Astrology/Zodiac as a Science or a Fringe Science.
That's a red rag to a Bull for me.
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I just read this:

Astronomer Parke Kunkle tells NBC news that due to the Earth's changing alignment in the last 3000 years, the sign you are born into now are different than they were long ago. Plus, some astronomers believe there is a 13th Zodiac sign called Ophiuchus, which falls between Scorpio and Sagittarius.

"This is not something that happened today. This has gone on for thousands of years," says Kunkle. "Because of this change of tilt, the Earth is really over here in effect and Sun is in a different constellation than it was 3,000 years ago."

The constellation of Ophiuchus is located near the celestial equator and is typically depicted as a man wrangling a serpent. "Ophiuchus" means "serpent-bearer" in Greek. There are several different characters from Greek mythology that Ophiuchus is thought to represent, including Asclepius the healer, Trojan priest Laocoon, who was killed by sea serpents, and Phorbas, who saved the people of Rhodes from an infestation of serpents.

The sign Ophiuchus can be found in the Sidereal Zodiac, which is used by Jyotish (or Hindu) astrologers. The Sidereal Zodiac's astrological sign dates are similar to the dates listed below, depending on if the Sun is in a constellation or not.

So astrology enthusiasts should be using these dates, which reflect the current alignment of the Sun, Earth and stars.


Capricorn: Jan. 20 - Feb. 16
Aquarius: Feb. 16 - March 11
Pisces: March 11- April 18
Aries: April 18- May 13
Taurus: May 13- June 21
Gemini: June 21- July 20
Cancer: July 20- Aug. 10
Leo: Aug. 10- Sept. 16
Virgo: Sept. 16- Oct. 30
Libra: Oct. 30- Nov. 23
Scorpio: Nov. 23- Nov. 29
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29- Dec. 17
Sagittarius: Dec. 17- Jan. 20

So...according to this new development I am a Cancer and am with a Pisces...another good match!

I forgot to mention..in Chinese Astrology I am also perfectly matched as I am a Rooster and my best matches are the Snake and the Ox...and all of the Aries men I have been with have been one or the other
 
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At the same time there was no evidence that the earth was not round it was an open question, the lack of disproof is not proof.
It is all semantics of course but the earth being round was a fact even when there was no evidence to prove it...that is the way I see it and also the reason I keep my mind as open as possible to things I may not understand.
 
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Omg I changed from a Cancer to a Gemini now I hate that indecisive stars
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It is worth while as a mechanism to get to know the inner workings of a person. The Chinese Zodiac is far more useful than the Western Zodiac. If your partner can discuss themselves as in-depth as these "readings" so then you will know who compatible you truly are.
 
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Yeah just read this apparently I’m now a Capricorn, so I went form a Water Bearer to a Sea Goat....whatever
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no not really i actually find it more harder to find the zodiac that you like than to just find anyone period


ooh n by the way im a virgo
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At the same time there was no evidence that the earth was not round it was an open question, the lack of disproof is not proof.
Not that I take the zodiacal signs all that seriously myself, but so far there is no factual evidence that astrology doesn't have an effect on individual personality types. Indeed, if one were to analyze it scientifically, one could make a legitimate argument that the positioning of the earth in respect to various star clusters or some other unknown variable could indeed have an effect on human behavior much like the moon in its phases does. Chaos theory isn't just a matter of butterflies and hurricanes. It also extends to astronomical bodies, their gravitons, quarks, gluons, neutrinoes, photons, and other such particles. How do we know? Hypothetically speaking, your argument thus far would be the equivalent of a sailor's afraid of falling off the edge of the world because the shape of the world hasn't been proven yet. You disregard things because there is no evidence that supports it, though there is no evidence to deny it either. I don't see how your adherence to "fact" is any more valid than another person's argument. You might consider the fact that the human race is still vastly ignorant of the various functioning of the Universe. Hell, we haven't even proved a unifying theory of physics.

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Chaos theory is a very good point to bring up. In Astrology the position of the earth with respect to various celestial bodies influences human behaviour in a [I]predictable/I] manner, not a chaotic one.
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BTW, Antiquarians are known for combining science and mysticism. I've always thought that that was an accurate description of me.
 
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Chaos theory is a very good point to bring up. In Astrology the position of the earth with respect to various celestial bodies influences human behaviour in a [I]predictable/I] manner, not a chaotic one.
LOL, and thus we have predictions of personality types. I was saying that we may just not have the scientific formula for those established precepts. There is nothing you can prove or disprove factually. But, you might try it for yourself if you wish. It would probably require a couple of centuries either way. So, you may want to get started now.
 
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Ah, I see what you are getting at. But you mistake chaos theory in saying that it is not predictable, after all, absolute chaos does equal absolute order, and chaos tends to order itself naturally. In other words, though our mediorologists aren't always right, they can usually predict when a hurricane is coming.
 
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Yes but they have no idea whatsoever which flap of butterfly wings will cause a hurricane and which will not.
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So astrology enthusiasts should be using these dates, which reflect the current alignment of the Sun, Earth and stars.


Capricorn: Jan. 20 - Feb. 16
Aquarius: Feb. 16 - March 11
Pisces: March 11- April 18
Aries: April 18- May 13
Taurus: May 13- June 21
Gemini: June 21- July 20
Cancer: July 20- Aug. 10
Leo: Aug. 10- Sept. 16
Virgo: Sept. 16- Oct. 30
Libra: Oct. 30- Nov. 23
Scorpio: Nov. 23- Nov. 29
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29- Dec. 17
Sagittarius: Dec. 17- Jan. 20
I'm still a Taurus .
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I'm a Taurus now?
...the hell? I liked being a Gemini...
 
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