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This is a nice statement but some of the nations on the list signed a statement recently reserving the right to put to death GLBT people so I am not sure what the point of this is as these nations taint the list with their signatures. Did they change their mind in such a short time? Rwanda? Cuba? South Africa? I am happy that so many nations felt it important but these nations who signed both petitions is what interests me. I would like to know more about their decision. Also...I notice India and South Korea are missing as well.
[Only registered members can see links. ] In favor of the amendment to remove sexual orientation from the resolution on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions (79): Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin, Botswana, Brunei Dar-Sala, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, China, Comoros, Congo, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Ghana, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe |
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What on earth is South Africa doing on that list? It has gay marriage for goodness sake?
Unless the domestic media of countries in question take a serious interest in U.N. statements then frankly they have no consequence whatsoever.
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The South Africa thing is because the country is currently lead by Jacob Zuma, a blatant homophobic polygamist rapist. The South African constitution assures gays their rights in that country not the political leadership.
The back tracking of Zuma is just political, because he was harshly criticized for the execution vote, some saying he violated the constitution in doing so and he was attacked by the opposition party in their parliament over it.
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Thanks, I had no idea he held sufficient sway to get the ambassador to vote in this way.
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)...I appreciate the info. The duplicity makes sense now.
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An email from ALL OUT said this today:
"Our inboxes have been flooded this morning with the great news: today the UN Human Rights Council passed a historic resolution affirming equal rights for all, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. This is a really big deal -- it's the first time that an official UN resolution has focused exclusively on human rights, sexual orientation and gender identity. The resolution also commissions an official UN study on how LGBT people around the world are impacted by discriminatory laws and violence. This victory was a long time in the making. Advocates and activists in South Africa worked closely with the South African government to introduce this resolution. A coalition of civil society advocates, including our friends at ARC International, pushed until the last minute for this unprecedented vote. And hundreds of you responded to our urgent campaign alert, flooding foreign offices around the world, urging this vote. Together we made a difference. From social networks to the streets, from court houses to the corridors of the United Nations, LGBT people around the world are fighting, and winning, the simple right to live and love freely. This global movement for LGBT equality is gathering speed. Thanks so much for being a part of it. Let us know what this victory means to you. Leave us a message on our Facebook wall and read what others are saying about this historic moment. [Only registered members can see links. ] All the best and All Out," I heard on the radio today that this motion was hardly opposed by countries of Africa mostly and countries with radical Islamic cultures, not surprisingly. Therefore, I suppose it is quite a feat!!! Last edited by princealbertofb; 18th June 2011 at 12:42 am. |
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I saw this earlier today too - this is great progress! As disconcerted as I get sometimes with all the bickering over marriage, etc, when I hear or read how gays are treated in so much other parts of the world, my heart really goes out to GLBT in these nations. That the UN is finally recognizing and addressing things is a very important step in making progress, and hopefully the progress only continues to grow.
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With fits and starts probably... I think what the world is showing us at the moment, is a need for more democracy and definitely a need for more human rights being enforced. In the meantime, France has just rejected gay mariage and makes us look like losers compared with such countries as our neighbour Belgium or even former Catholic countries like Spain and Portugal. Who'd have thought?
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WOW! Cuba signed on...Bravo! There is hope! I think that China abstaining is also potentially hopeful.
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