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War with Iran, will the UK help
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pellaz Wrote:Newt Gingrich Contemplates War with Iran

isnt the weapons of mass destruction is a little warn out?
but what if we actually did it an in the end only found a few cans of paint in the land mass the size of California. err ... didnt this already happen a few years ago.

Not for the average American who has most likely forgotten about 'sexed-up' data when it came to Iraq. I feel that both Democrats and Republicans want war with Iran and several other Middle Eastern nations. 9-11-01 was a windfall, one so 'lucky' for the politicians in order to enact war with Afghanistan that many believe that the attacks on America were an inside job, or at the very least allowed to happen.

The American People were so charged by 9-11 that attacking Iraq made lots of sense and the public were willing to believe anything.

The idea of War with Iran may not fly with We The People, so someone has to sacrifice themselves to the Golden Calf of politics and broach the subject every so often to test the public opinion. Newt is one of those demons that knows he will never sit on the throne of the Oval office (Oh sure he may try, but his job is to be a distraction, not a real runner).

Oil is the key unspoken reason to make war in the Middle East. He who controls the spice controls the universe. Wait, I meant oil.... Rolleyes

In the late 1960's early 1970's the whole idea of Peak Oil rose up in political and military circles. Not just global but on the national level. As soon as the subject rose to the surface 'suddenly' the USA was hitting its peak oil. As a kid during the time I recall the adults talking about the subject of oil. There were plenty of tales that perfectly good, full oil wells were taken off the line and quietly capped, that American resources undeveloped were well known and that the USA had no reason what-so-ever to depend on foreign oil.

In the early 1980's the story emerged from an insider who said that the military purposefully brought about a false 'peak oil in America' scenario in order to justify depleting the rest of the world while sitting on reserves that could keep the nation going strong for at least 50 year after all of the other oil was used up. In the Cold War era this was aimed at forcing the USSR to use up its own oil while the USA sat on its own. When the world reached peak oil, not enough for everyone, the USA could open up its reserves for its own military and stay on top as the World's Super Power.

This was around the time of the Afghanistan War in the 1980's where CIA and KGB were fronting and training operatives in Afghanistan (Bin Laden was one such person).
the Iran Iraq war also took place. Saddam had an advantage very early in the war. He could have marched in, took over Iran and the war would have been over in months. however the Western Powers (USA, USSR) had their filthy hands in it and caused Saddam to cease his push, the war then dragged out over about 8 years.

This was back in the day when Rumsfeld, bush Family and lots of other well known politicians of the last Administration were on first name basis and very friendly with Saddam.

War in the Middle East, constant tensions, constant threat of more war keeps the region unstable, prevents it from really emerging as the real economic super-power it could be based on the oil wealth it sits on. This has always been advantageous to the Western World who has gotten extremely cheap oil through all of this time.

Dubai is changing from an oil exporter to a tourist importer. They are running out of oil and are planning on a future to keep the money rolling in. Other Emirates are also at the same point where they understand that their oil is running out.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oi...l-reserves

The top oil producers are:
Saudis Arabia (an ally of the US)
Canada (An ally of the US)
Iran - not an ally.
Iraq - now an occupied ally of the US.

Afghanistan is not a real oil producer, but it could be the ideal place for a pipeline:

Both oil and natural gas.

We made war with Iraq, we have 'control' over that area. Next is Iran.

Watch out Canada - if you do not tow the line guess who will be occupied after Iraq.
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War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-13-2011, 10:42 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 12-13-2011, 11:18 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by zeon - 12-13-2011, 11:29 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 12-13-2011, 11:46 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by mrk2010 - 12-13-2011, 11:48 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by East - 12-13-2011, 11:48 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-13-2011, 11:49 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by jbd555 - 12-13-2011, 11:50 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-14-2011, 12:08 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 12:32 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-14-2011, 12:46 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fenris - 12-14-2011, 12:54 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 01:07 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-14-2011, 01:32 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 04:30 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 05:00 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by dfiant - 12-14-2011, 07:35 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 12-14-2011, 07:52 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Almac - 12-14-2011, 11:52 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 12-14-2011, 12:38 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-14-2011, 04:29 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Genersis - 12-14-2011, 04:45 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 06:24 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Almac - 12-14-2011, 06:27 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 07:55 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 09:55 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 03:43 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 12-15-2011, 05:12 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 07:02 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by dfiant - 12-15-2011, 07:37 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 09:05 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Pix - 12-15-2011, 11:17 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-15-2011, 03:11 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 09:37 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 09:54 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Pix - 12-15-2011, 11:16 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by HollandofFrance - 12-17-2011, 05:38 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by East - 12-17-2011, 06:32 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by DOMITIAN - 12-17-2011, 07:36 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-17-2011, 09:02 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 12-18-2011, 12:55 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-18-2011, 04:18 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-18-2011, 04:24 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-18-2011, 04:31 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-18-2011, 04:38 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by HollandofFrance - 12-18-2011, 06:16 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by HollandofFrance - 12-18-2011, 06:25 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by procrasty - 01-03-2012, 12:22 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Almac - 01-03-2012, 12:27 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Bowyn Aerrow - 01-03-2012, 01:23 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Uke - 01-03-2012, 03:58 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by KJ1989 - 01-03-2012, 06:09 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 01-03-2012, 06:15 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 01-03-2012, 06:54 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Sil - 01-03-2012, 07:12 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 01-04-2012, 09:04 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 01-04-2012, 10:32 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Genersis - 01-04-2012, 10:39 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fenris - 01-04-2012, 01:05 PM

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