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Default Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia

I'm not a Trump fan, I just think Hillary Clinton is the worst possible choice for any office.

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Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.
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I'm in agreement with you, this is someone who had her corruption exposed and is willing to start World War III to cover it up.
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It doesnt really matter. Donald Trump would not be hard for Putin to manipulate anyway.

A choice between Trump and Clinton is the choice between the bullet or the poison.
At least if you take the poison there's a chance you can recover. Vote third party, failing that vote Clinton.
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If you vote for Trump....you are a Trump Fan....
 
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If you vote for Trump....you are a Trump Fan....
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If you vote for Trump....you are a Trump Fan....
Which I have not done bubbie...
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Me either...No Trump for me. If 3rd party candidates had a substantial following I would consider a vote for them however, they don't that's just the way it is. I think we have a long way to go before we get decent people running for office. It is an absolute shame that the people running for public office at the local level have more discipline and decency than the people who are wanting to be POTUS.

So either way, like it or not, your choice will be Trump or Clinton...
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So either way, like it or not, your choice will be Trump or Clinton...
No, there's also not voting for anyone, or voting for Stein or Johnson
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Either way, whether you vote or not, it will be one of the two...

I mean we can place bets....I'll bet you anything that either Trump or Clinton will win...
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Either way, whether you vote or not, it will be one of the two...

I mean we can place bets....I'll bet you anything that either Trump or Clinton will win...
But the choice is more than just voting for either of those too...

one of them will win, but there are more choices than voting for either of them...
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Right, so you're just making it clear that people have the choice to waste their vote on a 3rd party candidate or not vote at all...

My guess is that most people here don't want Trump in office and also don't like Hillary. So a vote for the 3rd party which we know will not win is a waste, not voting...is well not voting. See where I'm going with this?

Unless you actually want Trump in office, I don't, the only logical course of action is to vote for Clinton.
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Voting third party is not a wasted vote. Especially if you're voting third party on the local scale. But voting for a third party president without that party having a substantial presence in congress isn't going to do any good for anyone even if a third party candidate were to be voted in as president. Look at what the republicans did to Obama. You think the major parties are just going to join hands and throw their support behind a third party president?
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Voting third party is not a wasted vote. Especially if you're voting third party on the local scale. But voting for a third party president without that party having a substantial presence in congress isn't going to do any good for anyone even if a third party candidate were to be voted in as president. Look at what the republicans did to Obama. You think the major parties are just going to join hands and throw their support behind a third party president?
Local is one thing, when it is state, county city. I agree with pretty much what you're saying. I think it has been brought up before ,for a 3rd party to successful has to grow from the ground up not the other way around.

The only one thing I see wrong with Russia and the apparent lack of ties to Donald Trump is that if the Russians were just trying to disrupt the election process...why do anything at all? I'd say it is pretty disrupted if you ask me...at least this election.
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Lol just saying if Trumpy gets in it will prove everything why people dislike United States of America and no is going to take him seriously. Bit like Nigel Farage being PM of great Britain lol.

The world we are living is bloody a bloody joke atm. Can't anyone see this isn't going to end well.
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