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Anonymous takes on ISIS
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Hardheaded1 Wrote:Shadow governments, organizations, entities, and hands cannot be trusted.

and official governments can be trusted? elected state officials can be trusted?

Virge Wrote:The state chief justice, the infamous homophobe, Roy Moore issued orders for probate judges not to issue licenses to gay couples. According to him in past statements and head of the state supreme court, as a christian he does not have to obey the laws and higher court rulings if they conflict with his beliefs. Also according to him, the 1st amendment only applies to christians.

nobody can be trusted who you don't know personally. our best bet is to do our research and reach an educated guess. not dissolve into nihilism and paranoia about everything in existence.


Quote:ISIS is horrible, but that doesn't make whoever opposes ISIS noble. The US backed Iraq when it opposed Iran's Islamic State. That didn't make Iraq's forces virtuous. It didn't make the U.S. right in trying to reassert imperial control of Iran's economy and throne.

this doesn't have anything to do with Anonymous going against ISIS. not an analogy.

and nobody is virtuous. neither Barras or Fouché were virtuous but they did the right thing helping take down Robespierre and end his terror regime. Charlotte Corday who killed Marat wasn't virtuous for it. but she absolutely did the right thing.

people and groups like ISIS who kill people on the reason that the latter don't share their worldview need to be acted against and taken out. they do not have a place in the civilized world. you're not gonna stop them with reasoning or words. action is all that counts.

Quote:Anonymous is a rogue miscellany of vigilantes. On any given topic, one may agree or disagree with an illegal act.

so? those who agree with any given operation partake in it, those who don't don't. their whole point is to remain anonymous.


Quote:When I read "Anonymous struck down" accounts or websites, I immediately think, "who knows who was guilty or not?" In truth, we do not. We merely see a row of "bodies" laid out on the street and are expected to naively trust that they were all guilty.

wow. ISIS kills people left and right and you're worried that some random person might have lost their twitter account by accident.

say Anonymous takes down an account belonging to someone not associated with ISIS? so what? a person loses their account on twitter/facebook by accident. make a new account and move on.

''row of bodies''? really? you're really pulling that card here? you're really using Anonymous's disabling websites/twitter accounts in the same context as ISIS's murder, killing, torture, dismembering, bombing, stoning a woman to death for sleeping with another man, throwing two guys off a building because they suspected they were homosexual? those are the row of bodies laid out on the street. what about those bodies? they are the real bodies we have to worry about. not get queasy over a few twitter accounts.

descramble your priorities.

Quote:Like overused antibiotics, this won't stamp out a problem, only force it to evolve into a more virulent and stealthy form.

and Anonymous and intelligence will evolve along with it. ISIS doesn't exist in a vacuum. they operate in the physical world. if they get more sophisticated so will we. change effects a change in whatever is concerned with it.
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