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Kids and home schooling?
#1
So every single "Wife Swap USA" seems to have one family in it which has home schooled children, but their only excuse seems to be they can censor what the kids are learning (ie no sex education).

But they do not teach their kids for a long duration, maybe 3-4 hours a day where as compared to school its 6 hours.
Schools are trying to teach 30-40 kids at once where as home schooling is small 2-4 maybe.

I'm more in favour of home schooling, but when it comes down to convenience school is higher on the list.

Home schooling rules, and the debate has started!Luxhello
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#2
I have a very strong opinion on this but I am currently rocking along to the legends that are jon bon jovi and richie sambora and this is the first proper sit down I've had in about 5 days so someone hit me to reply later if I forget!!!
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#3
I have two qualms with homeschooling:
1. One thing that public school provides, that homeschooling does not is social interaction (even if you are a loner). I think that is an important part of human development. That includes, presenting projects in class, talking in the halls, and just learning how to communicate with peers and teachers in the proper manner.

2. I don't know how valid this concern is, but sometimes parents are a bit overbearing (for better or worse) or not concerned enough about their child's education. I think public school can give the right education without a foreboding parent figure looming constantly. This is the impression I have from some of the home schooled kids I have met.
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#4
XRIMO Wrote:I have two qualms with homeschooling:
1. One thing that public school provides, that homeschooling does not is social interaction (even if you are a loner). I think that is an important part of human development. That includes, presenting projects in class, talking in the halls, and just learning how to communicate with peers and teachers in the proper manner.

2. I don't know how valid this concern is, but sometimes parents are a bit overbearing (for better or worse) or not concerned enough about their child's education. I think public school can give the right education without a foreboding parent figure looming constantly. This is the impression I have from some of the home schooled kids I have met.


I'm gonna have to agree Xrimo! I do think home schooling can make you more "book smart" as your education is tended towards what you are good at instead of a general education ... but in the end .. school is social as is all our lives and they are missing out on that!
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#5
But is it not better that your getting "professional" lectures?

Or should the kids be tought how to learn on their own with maybe their parents guiding them but thats about it?


I see the social reason for going to schools, but you can send your kids to clubs, camps all that kinda crap to become social no?
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#6
CardShark Wrote:But is it not better that your getting "professional" lectures?

Or should the kids be tought how to learn on their own with maybe their parents guiding them but thats about it?


I see the social reason for going to schools, but you can send your kids to clubs, camps all that kinda crap to become social no?
Home schooling (or "education otherwise" [named after a clause in the 1944 Education Act]) is a right. However, with rights go the responsibilities. The following is "borrowed" from the EO website

Responsibility of Parents


The responsibility of parents is clearly established in section 7 of the Education Act 1996 (previously section 36 of the Education Act 1944):
Compulsory education
7 Duty of parents to secure education of children of compulsory school age
The parent of every child of compulsory school age shall cause him to receive efficient full-time education suitable—
  1. to his age, ability and aptitude, and
  2. to any special educational needs he may have,
either by regular attendance at school or otherwise.
<A name=suitable>Definition of Suitable Education
An interpretation of some terminology used in the Education Act 1944 (replaced by the 1996 Act) was provided by an appeal case which was brought at Worcester Crown Court in 1981 (Harrison & Harrison v Stevenson). In this case, the judge defined a ‘suitable education’ as one which was such as:
  1. to prepare the children for life in modern civilised society, and
  2. to enable them to achieve their full potential.
The diversity of modern society and styles of education give parents considerable freedom of choice in enabling children to achieve their potential. In the case of R v Secretary of State for Education and Science, ex parte Talmud Torah Machzikei Hadass School Trust (1985) (Times, 12 April 1985) Mr Justice Woolf held that:
education is ‘suitable’ if it primarily equips a child for life within the community of which he is a member, rather than the way of life in the country as a whole, as long as it does not foreclose the child’s options in later years to adopt some other form of life if he wishes to do so.
Examining the meaning of the expression full-time shows the hours spent on teaching in schools are not relevant to home education, which generally takes place on a one-to-one basis, or in small groups, in very different conditions.
Provided the child is not a registered pupil at a school, the parent is not required to provide any particular type of education, and is under no obligation to:
  • have premises equipped to any particular standard
  • have any specific qualifications
  • cover the same syllabus as any school
  • adopt the National Curriculum
  • make detailed plans in advance
  • observe school hours, days or terms
  • have a fixed timetable
  • give formal lessons
  • reproduce school type peer group socialisation
  • match school, age-specific standards
  • seek permission to educate 'otherwise'
  • take the initiative in informing the local authority
  • have regular contact with the local authority
More information about this may be found on page 10 of the Government's 2007 document Home Education Guidelines.

Although, many parents of children receiving EO do band together to support each other and provide more social activities, or specific subject expertise. The local authority often takes a keen interest in what is happening to a child being educated at home and will often send round an officer to check up that everything's okay.
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Quote:and is under no obligation to:

* have premises equipped to any particular standard
* have any specific qualifications
* cover the same syllabus as any school
* adopt the National Curriculum
* make detailed plans in advance
* observe school hours, days or terms
* have a fixed timetable
* give formal lessons
* reproduce school type peer group socialisation
* match school, age-specific standards
* seek permission to educate 'otherwise'
* take the initiative in informing the local authority
* have regular contact with the local authority

Basically send them to school then?
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#8
CardShark Wrote:Basically send them to school then?
There shouldn't be, but I suspect there are conflicting points of view on this Wink
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#9
I have a rather unique perspective on this subject since I was home schooled from grades k-7.

I received a good education during those years, as a matter of fact I was one year ahead of my classmates when I went to public school starting at grade 8. I'm not saying that all home schooled kids do better, but I know I did.
Richard
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