Your Personal Utopia

[HumbleTangerine]

@Tulloni.

Oh, first of all, I have no idea why I said "today"... I did not go to school yesterday. Sleep deprivation maybe

Second of all, yes Sweden has a social liberalist system, pretty much, but it doesn't work as intended. The free market and its private institutions aren't being properly regulated by the government, which has caused some quite severe problems. In the upcoming election you'll pretty much have to choose between:

1. Giving power to more socialist political parties that will oppose privatizations and regulate society more thoroughly. This will be a large obstacle financially, but a lot of fundamental problems, in education for example, would disappear. At the expense of taxpayers of course.

2. Giving power to the political parties that currently rule. This essentially means that financial prospects and freedom of choice will improve severely, whilst some of the fundamental problems remain unregulated.

It's pretty much a struggle to find the ruling side that will bring amount the least amount of damage; a struggle that obviously comes with high amounts of political apathy.

[trialbyerror]

At a national / global level, where the SA constitution be complied with by all, without the corruption / greed / nepotism of the ruling regime, would be as close to utopia as I can imagine.

On a personal level, the environment that has been created at the farm, is for me, a totally Utopian environment.

An environment of acceptance of everybody, irrespective of race color creed sexual identity wealth or lack thereof.

Once I pass through the farm gate, I am able to just be me. Me without concerns of judgment. Me with my qwerks, my character flaws (such as my anger management issues)

People know me and accept me for who I am. They handle me. (EG in situations of potential conflict, they calm me down, lead me away and so on.)

Inclusive of social interaction I am free to participate or not, as I choose.

It is a benign patriarchal system maintained by the citizenry of the farm.

That is for me utopia..

[BlackBaron]

no laws, no rules, no governments, no people- except me and my little friendly company. This is my utopia

[BlackBaron]

So my utopia looks like situation in the Conan Doyle's "Poison belt "

[xavier]

No religion

[Bowyn Aerrow]

Socialist society, with a series of computers that manage resources and cut up the pie and hand it out in equal pieces to everyone.


There is the Venus Project http://www.thevenusproject.com/ that lays out the whole thing in a decent manner.

One of the major issues humanity faces is that there are too many humans for the limited resources of earth. 7+ billion is way too many.

When I become Dictator of the world I'm going to pass the Edict: Banning all birth for 20 years, meaning every individual will be temporarily sterilized (there are ways to do this safely) and 20 years later those who are between the ages of 20 and 35 will be allowed to have one child per couple.

The natural already present death rate will take care of the excess humans.

During that 20 year period as people die off naturally, cities and infrastructure will be disassembled, the material recycled and stored.

Detroit is a bad example of abandonment. A lot of useful material is sitting there rotting. What should be happening is all of those empty structures should have been taken apart, the bits that are recyclable should be melted down and stored for future use. The wood, brick and concrete shredded/ground up and spread over the empty lot to revitalize the soils.

The alternative is to stop medicine dead in its tracks and allow disease and nature to cull the herd. This was effective for the first several hundred thousand years of human existence.

Earth can sustain 500 million people as hunter gathers or naturally. 1 billion with limited use of irrigation. 2 billion with organic methods of raising food.

The way we go about raising food, with a high reliance on petroleum products, is totally unsustainable is and wrecking the planet.

Until such time that humans reach out and start mining the moon and asteroid belt and rings of Saturn, we need to put a cap on human growth and numbers below 3 billion.

[artyboy]

Nürburgring race track in a Cosworth Escort LX AWD!!!

[HumbleTangerine]

Socialist society, with a series of computers that manage resources and cut up the pie and hand it out in equal pieces to everyone.

May I just ask why you personally believe "equal resources for everyone" is fair?

Me, personally, I want everyone in my utopia to have enough resources to live stable, satisfactory lives, but I sincerely believe that people who work harder deserve higher profit. If I do a good job and dedicate myself to it, while my neighbour slacks and doesn't achieve nearly as much as I do, I think it's just fair that my rewards are higher than his. If there's no form of meritocracy and hard work isn't rewarded, I believe society has reached a stage of severe unfairness.

[CardShark]

[Sharkspeare]

May I just ask why you personally believe "equal resources for everyone" is fair?

Me, personally, I want everyone in my utopia to have enough resources to live stable, satisfactory lives, but I sincerely believe that people who work harder deserve higher profit. If I do a good job and dedicate myself to it, while my neighbour slacks and doesn't achieve nearly as much as I do, I think it's just fair that my rewards are higher than his. If there's no form of meritocracy and hard work isn't rewarded, I believe society has reached a stage of severe unfairness.

Agree, but there needs to be a floor that people can't fall below, and a ceiling (to prevent the extreme inequality we now face here in the USA).