05-18-2021, 05:32 PM
(05-18-2021, 06:45 AM)Karl Rand Wrote: If was living in the US and a US Citizen I'd have migrated to Australia (or wherever) some time ago as have a number of ex americans now living near me.
My builder saw the writing on the wall 27 years ago departing Florida for Nth Tasmania. The opinion he’s formed of an America armed to the teeth become more negative every time he visits his relatives.  He’s no longer willing to have his children with him when he visits ”˜home’.
So you think the sole problem in America is people with guns?
(05-18-2021, 06:45 AM)Karl Rand Wrote: I have however, learnt long ago there’s little point in attempting to introduce US gun advocates to anything like sanity. All I can say is God help America.Â
---end of discussion on my part
Right, so you expect a civil discussion by being insulting. That's my problem with this. You have an opinion that doesn't favor citizens having firearms, fine, great...grand! This is a forum, not Facebook. We have people from many countries covering every continent (excluding Antarctica). I don't go around insulting other people or cultural practices, even if I disagree with it or find it ridiculous. Firearms, 2nd Amendment, like it or not, is a cultural phenomena in the USA, that's the way it is.
When you say shit like this...
Quote:My comment ”˜nation has lost it’s sanity’ wasn’t snarky but something I've experienced as regretably true. I’ve been visiting the US since my mid 20’s some 50 years ago so have some idea of the profound changes that have taken place.
You're not having a debate any longer. You cannot expect me, as an American, to take you seriously when you assert that a nation of 330 million people have collectively gone insane.
(05-18-2021, 03:20 PM)Chase Wrote: It's already too late for most of us. Immigrating to Australia has been becoming increasingly harder. I have a relative in Melbourne who said Australia would be great for me, but she moved before I was born. I looked into it, and moving to Australia is difficult. Moving to the US is certainly hard for many people as it is, but Australia presently has an immigration system that is so selective, many far-right anti-immigration advocates in the US use it as an example of their preferred immigration system. For me, moving to Australia is incredibly hard because my career-field isn't on Australia's list of skill-shortages, and I'm from a working class family with tons of student loan debt that I can't declare bankruptcy on.
Sadly, the "writing on the wall" in America goes deeper than just gun issues. The US is succumbing to levels of income inequality that dwarf that of feudalism. Healthcare costs are astronomically price-gauged, with many Americans dying from not even being able to afford insulin, something that cost dollars to make.
That though, is a whole different ball of wax.
That's exactly what I'm getting to. The problems we face as a nation is inequality, health care, education, mental health and so on. Immigration is expensive and difficult in many countries. Even moving north to Canada isn't particularly easy, or the UK for that matter. Plus you may find yourself discriminated against because you're an immigrant from the US depending on what country you go to.
You don't have to have a gun to commit heinous acts such as this...
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne...-in-sydney
Very sad and disturbing.
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