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(06-06-2021, 04:18 AM)calgor Wrote: @InbetweenDreams I'm the last person that would represent himself as a gun expert. I'm just going by what I see. I see these weapons used in multiple mass shootings.

I'm no expert either. Simply that I've been considering a firearm.

(06-06-2021, 04:18 AM)calgor Wrote: I don't see them as doing anything that a law abiding citizen cannot do with other readily available weapons. Expanding access to them serves no other purpose than to be another toy for gun owners, and they already have more than enough of them.

Well, I think one reason is that the AR-15 quite practical. It can make for a good hunting rifle, shooting deer, etc. And if you're using the appropriate ammo can serve as home defense, although wouldn't be my first choice....



Mind you, no one got hurt. Likewise, the assailants weren't expecting to see an AR-15 pointed at them when they busted through the door. In many states, including the one I live in would have been legal to have shot and killed them the second they broke into the house.

So I think it is that they are versatile, practical and accepts a lot of modifications as to why they're popular. However, when it comes to mass shootings handguns are more commonly used.

(06-06-2021, 04:18 AM)calgor Wrote: Here's some other food for thought I came across.

This Simple, Legal Add-On Lets an AR-15 Rifle Fire 900 Rounds Per Minute
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013...inute.html

There was a temporary ban on bump stocks following the Las Vegas massacre which a federal appeals court just stayed in March which makes the California ruling all the more galling.

I agree, there's not much justification for bump stocks for a civilian, outside of a civil war. There are self-defense scenarios where you need to fire rapidly, but you're also probably not going to have time to draw an AR-15. That being said, I really question the 900 rounds per minute, this is 30 rounds a second. I don't know what all magazine capacities exist for the AR, but 20-30 seems to be common. I think a firing rate between 3-5 per second is more realistic, possibly a little bit faster. Even if you were able to achieve 30 rounds per second you're going to go through all your ammo in a second, meaning you have to either reload or put in another magazine, either way 900 rounds per minute is not possible. But yes, I don't see much purpose for a bump stock.
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Messages In This Thread
Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-14-2021, 10:07 PM
RE: Firearms - by Bhp91126 - 05-14-2021, 11:15 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-17-2021, 02:55 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-15-2021, 03:21 AM
RE: Firearms - by Chase - 05-16-2021, 04:55 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-16-2021, 07:47 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-17-2021, 11:01 AM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-17-2021, 11:43 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-17-2021, 01:37 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-18-2021, 04:20 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-18-2021, 05:04 AM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-18-2021, 06:45 AM
RE: Firearms - by Chase - 05-18-2021, 03:20 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-20-2021, 06:35 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-18-2021, 05:32 PM
RE: Firearms - by The Goof - 05-19-2021, 07:52 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-19-2021, 08:07 PM
RE: Firearms - by The Goof - 05-19-2021, 08:19 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 05-21-2021, 08:35 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-21-2021, 09:15 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 05-22-2021, 03:47 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-21-2021, 09:22 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-03-2021, 03:16 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-03-2021, 12:25 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-03-2021, 05:31 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-03-2021, 05:47 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-04-2021, 11:57 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-04-2021, 08:05 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-05-2021, 01:01 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-05-2021, 03:14 AM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-05-2021, 05:26 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-05-2021, 06:07 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-05-2021, 07:50 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-05-2021, 09:23 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-05-2021, 11:26 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-06-2021, 12:52 AM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-06-2021, 04:18 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-06-2021, 01:38 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-17-2021, 08:05 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-17-2021, 09:31 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-18-2021, 12:32 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-18-2021, 03:53 AM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-18-2021, 07:57 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-18-2021, 02:51 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-19-2021, 08:11 AM
RE: Firearms - by JoelR - 06-20-2021, 01:10 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-20-2021, 02:29 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-28-2021, 06:19 PM
RE: Firearms - by ceez - 06-29-2021, 11:24 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-29-2021, 12:43 PM
RE: Firearms - by JoelR - 07-04-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 07-05-2021, 01:44 PM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-18-2021, 01:29 PM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-18-2021, 09:48 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 08-18-2021, 11:40 PM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-19-2021, 12:17 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 08-19-2021, 12:56 AM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-19-2021, 01:10 AM

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