08-27-2012, 01:35 AM
I'm Christian and I can tell you first hand that the same mentality exists in this religion as well. Yeah sure, currently Christians aren't in the mood to inflict their religious beliefs personally upon people, but history clearly shows the horrors of 'Christianity'. Lets see the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Witch burnings....
The problem is not so much religion as in faith in God/Allah or whatever name you give to the supreme being, the problem is (and perhaps always has been) an elite group of men who have used and abused the faith, twisting whatever holy scripture exists to meet their own narrow minded views.
Religious belief leads to 'doctrines' that leads to holding power over people. That power is held by a few who enjoy that power and care less about the suffering of their fellow man, nor if they serve 'truth' and the spirit of God/Allah (again whatever name you apply to the divine.
Yes, indeed, the Middle East has 'Islamic nations' where the Qur'an is held in high regard and is applied to justify their laws and the way they treat others. Mohammad (blessed be his name) most likely had no intent for his words to be used in the manner that they are today.
At the beginning of the 20th century, Islam was a peaceful religion. They had come quite a long way towards making it peaceful and even humane. Then the Western world came in and decided to make a few changes best suited to serve western needs. Pakistan, Afghanistan - heck any nation that ends in 'stan' is a product of western muddling.
Then came the Wars (WWI and WWII) which brought the need for oil and other resourced. WWII more than WWI. After WWII there was the great divide between the western powers, the Communists and the Democracies. That lead to the middle east becoming a new battle ground for a new kind of war - spy vs spy, espionage, the setting up of false leaders to serve the needs of some super power.
Bin Laden is but one example of that cold war. He was trained to be an operative by the American CIA. Trained, and a lot of promises were made to him then broken.
Bin Laden is not a product of Islam, he is a product of that training and a product of broken promises. His mission Had nothing to do with Islam, it had a lot more to having witnessed first hand the horrors of the cold war. Sure, he used Islam to win warriors to his cause and he abused Islam and the Qur'an to justify his 'war' on the western world.
Where Iran is today is directly because of American Muddling with the Shaw and various other stupid, selfish greedy activities.
Saddam was the poster boy of Cheney and company (The last American president administration) Back in the 1980's. In fact they supported and most likely provoked Saddam to go up against Iran back in the 1980's. Once they were finished with Saddam, Saddam was painted as a 'great evil' and then hunted down and killed like a dog.
Understand that Iraq was a beautiful country, it was rich and plentiful - well that is until the western world stepped in and started ripping it to shreds, then laying the blame at the feet of men that they personally made 'that way'.
Western muddling in a people's way of life, their nations, their basic rights is what has lead to this terrible 'war of terror'. Islam is not the real issue, Islam is not to blame.
Sure, Islam makes for a wonderful scapegoat, especially to the majority of so called 'christians' who are spoon-fed hatred and all manner of evil thoughts from cradle to the grave. Yes Islam has in many cases changed its shape, not because the Word of Islam makes it so, but as a consequence of how the western world muddled, used, abused and divided a once peace loving people.
Anger - they have every right. Anger at being bombed without provocation. Anger at having been used to fight a useless cold war when two superpowers didn't dare go to toe to toe. Anger at having their precious natural resources stolen from them, anger at having some western delegation come in and draw up fake boundaries and assign names like Afghanistan and Pakistan. Anger at having regime changes forced on them.
After 9-11-01 we here in America were bombarded with 'Islamic Terrorists' in the news, every channel on TV, every newspaper, nearly every periodical spread the world.
At the same time that the media was spreading that, the politicians sitting like fat cats in Washington D.C. talked out of the sides of their mouth at the same time. Spreading the fear by saying 'Islamic Terrorist Threat' every so often being punctuated by alert warnings. At the same time they played lip service to 'Oh no not all of Muslims, but beware the Islamic Terrorist Threat!'.
I fear that this is the world that you are in. One ruled by fear and hatred and an incredible lust for power and money. Sadly it is the greed and lust of power of a few that have lead to most of the world's woes. The so called 'elite' have us all in their grasp and use the same tactics and strategies to convince us that we need them.
In truth, we don't need them.
The problem is not so much religion as in faith in God/Allah or whatever name you give to the supreme being, the problem is (and perhaps always has been) an elite group of men who have used and abused the faith, twisting whatever holy scripture exists to meet their own narrow minded views.
Religious belief leads to 'doctrines' that leads to holding power over people. That power is held by a few who enjoy that power and care less about the suffering of their fellow man, nor if they serve 'truth' and the spirit of God/Allah (again whatever name you apply to the divine.
Yes, indeed, the Middle East has 'Islamic nations' where the Qur'an is held in high regard and is applied to justify their laws and the way they treat others. Mohammad (blessed be his name) most likely had no intent for his words to be used in the manner that they are today.
At the beginning of the 20th century, Islam was a peaceful religion. They had come quite a long way towards making it peaceful and even humane. Then the Western world came in and decided to make a few changes best suited to serve western needs. Pakistan, Afghanistan - heck any nation that ends in 'stan' is a product of western muddling.
Then came the Wars (WWI and WWII) which brought the need for oil and other resourced. WWII more than WWI. After WWII there was the great divide between the western powers, the Communists and the Democracies. That lead to the middle east becoming a new battle ground for a new kind of war - spy vs spy, espionage, the setting up of false leaders to serve the needs of some super power.
Bin Laden is but one example of that cold war. He was trained to be an operative by the American CIA. Trained, and a lot of promises were made to him then broken.
Bin Laden is not a product of Islam, he is a product of that training and a product of broken promises. His mission Had nothing to do with Islam, it had a lot more to having witnessed first hand the horrors of the cold war. Sure, he used Islam to win warriors to his cause and he abused Islam and the Qur'an to justify his 'war' on the western world.
Where Iran is today is directly because of American Muddling with the Shaw and various other stupid, selfish greedy activities.
Saddam was the poster boy of Cheney and company (The last American president administration) Back in the 1980's. In fact they supported and most likely provoked Saddam to go up against Iran back in the 1980's. Once they were finished with Saddam, Saddam was painted as a 'great evil' and then hunted down and killed like a dog.
Understand that Iraq was a beautiful country, it was rich and plentiful - well that is until the western world stepped in and started ripping it to shreds, then laying the blame at the feet of men that they personally made 'that way'.
Western muddling in a people's way of life, their nations, their basic rights is what has lead to this terrible 'war of terror'. Islam is not the real issue, Islam is not to blame.
Sure, Islam makes for a wonderful scapegoat, especially to the majority of so called 'christians' who are spoon-fed hatred and all manner of evil thoughts from cradle to the grave. Yes Islam has in many cases changed its shape, not because the Word of Islam makes it so, but as a consequence of how the western world muddled, used, abused and divided a once peace loving people.
Anger - they have every right. Anger at being bombed without provocation. Anger at having been used to fight a useless cold war when two superpowers didn't dare go to toe to toe. Anger at having their precious natural resources stolen from them, anger at having some western delegation come in and draw up fake boundaries and assign names like Afghanistan and Pakistan. Anger at having regime changes forced on them.
After 9-11-01 we here in America were bombarded with 'Islamic Terrorists' in the news, every channel on TV, every newspaper, nearly every periodical spread the world.
At the same time that the media was spreading that, the politicians sitting like fat cats in Washington D.C. talked out of the sides of their mouth at the same time. Spreading the fear by saying 'Islamic Terrorist Threat' every so often being punctuated by alert warnings. At the same time they played lip service to 'Oh no not all of Muslims, but beware the Islamic Terrorist Threat!'.
I fear that this is the world that you are in. One ruled by fear and hatred and an incredible lust for power and money. Sadly it is the greed and lust of power of a few that have lead to most of the world's woes. The so called 'elite' have us all in their grasp and use the same tactics and strategies to convince us that we need them.
In truth, we don't need them.
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