10-07-2014, 06:14 PM
I started this thread...
For: reasons.
As I pointed out the experts are not very expert on the subject.
I can pinpoint exactly when they lost control of the situation, and that was when President Obama went to the CDC for a briefing. Immediately after the briefing the president called the military in on this, and the immediate response was to send 3000 to Western Africa to 'help'.
And the Military take on this?
Odierno: Ebola largest medical emergency since plague
A rather large statement to make since the plague ended up wiping out 30-50% of the population of Europe during its few years of existing.
Going from a few thousand dead to several tens of millions at this early stage of the game is at best a wild overstatement based on what facts the Media is given by the WHO, CDC, governments.
Unless this General was briefed with the same information that the President was given.
The presidents reaction with calling the military this soon to lend 'aid' to Africa is a bit odd. What is odder is that his request for 84 million was negotiated down to 40 million by the congress.
If its any comfort to know, the Congress are being kept out of the loop. If they were in the loop that 84 million dollar aid package would have been signed with no complaint.
I won't even touch on the Enterovirus 68 which appears to be rapidly mutating and learning new tricks and popping up across the country in a rather odd pattern and spreading rapidly, leaving patients with polio-like symptoms. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Ent...death+rate makes for interesting read.
I have told others to go back and study the history of the Swine Flu outbreak and spread and how the WHO and CDC acted. Whilst H1N12009 turned out to be a dude on the deadly aspect, it did reveal a lot about how ill prepared medicine is in the 21st century to deal with an outbreak of anything, it also revealed just how CDC/WHO et al are unable to cope.
With this Ebola, we are seeing similar patterns of failure of these organizations to do their job just like the failed in the early days of the initial outbreak and spread of H1N1 2009
I suspect that we are entering into an interesting frame of time.
PopSci did a good job of explaining how hard it is to guess or estimate where any Ebola is going to go http://www.popsci.com/article/science/wh...y-february
No doubt by Christmas the world will be in a much different place when it comes to disease and how it is responding to Ebola and Enterovirus 68. Let us just hope they guessed the strains of flu correctly this year. If flu season turns out to have a novel flu then things are not going to end well.
For: reasons.
As I pointed out the experts are not very expert on the subject.
I can pinpoint exactly when they lost control of the situation, and that was when President Obama went to the CDC for a briefing. Immediately after the briefing the president called the military in on this, and the immediate response was to send 3000 to Western Africa to 'help'.
And the Military take on this?
Odierno: Ebola largest medical emergency since plague
Quote:WASHINGTON (Army News Service, Sept. 22, 2014) -- The Ebola outbreak is the largest medical emergency since the plague, and the Army is assessing how to respond to this "dire situation," said the Army's top general.
"It is a very bad situation," Chief of Staff of the Army Gen. Ray Odierno said today, at Google's office in Washington, D.C., during his first Google hangout, a virtual town hall that lasted more than an hour.
"We just got a team on the ground over there doing an assessment of what is needed," he said. "It is a medical emergency of proportions we haven't seen since the plague centuries ago."
A rather large statement to make since the plague ended up wiping out 30-50% of the population of Europe during its few years of existing.
Going from a few thousand dead to several tens of millions at this early stage of the game is at best a wild overstatement based on what facts the Media is given by the WHO, CDC, governments.
Unless this General was briefed with the same information that the President was given.
The presidents reaction with calling the military this soon to lend 'aid' to Africa is a bit odd. What is odder is that his request for 84 million was negotiated down to 40 million by the congress.
If its any comfort to know, the Congress are being kept out of the loop. If they were in the loop that 84 million dollar aid package would have been signed with no complaint.
I won't even touch on the Enterovirus 68 which appears to be rapidly mutating and learning new tricks and popping up across the country in a rather odd pattern and spreading rapidly, leaving patients with polio-like symptoms. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Ent...death+rate makes for interesting read.
I have told others to go back and study the history of the Swine Flu outbreak and spread and how the WHO and CDC acted. Whilst H1N12009 turned out to be a dude on the deadly aspect, it did reveal a lot about how ill prepared medicine is in the 21st century to deal with an outbreak of anything, it also revealed just how CDC/WHO et al are unable to cope.
With this Ebola, we are seeing similar patterns of failure of these organizations to do their job just like the failed in the early days of the initial outbreak and spread of H1N1 2009
I suspect that we are entering into an interesting frame of time.
PopSci did a good job of explaining how hard it is to guess or estimate where any Ebola is going to go http://www.popsci.com/article/science/wh...y-february
No doubt by Christmas the world will be in a much different place when it comes to disease and how it is responding to Ebola and Enterovirus 68. Let us just hope they guessed the strains of flu correctly this year. If flu season turns out to have a novel flu then things are not going to end well.
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