Well, it's not all good news :-(

[fredv3b]

I wanna contribute to this thread but dont want me ignorance of the world of politics to show :redface: what are you guys stance's on the mormon aspect of the vote to put pro 8 through? and to a lesser degree the other minorities ala black and hispanic folk who voted yes?

Dealing with the LDS issue first. I don't have an issue with them being in favour of Prop 8, I don't have an issue with LDS Church leaders IN CALIFORNIA telling their flocks that they should vote for Prop. 8, I don't have an issue with LDS Church leaders OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA telling their flocks about the wickedness in California and how it must be avoided in their state. What I do object to is LDS Church Leaders telling LDS the faithfull OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA that they should contribute as much as they can to the campaign. An estimated 70% of the funds raised by the proponents of Prop. 8 were from LDS Members (I don't know the in state / out of state split). By the same token if I was a Californian I would be most upset that non-Californians can send large amounts of money in to try and inflence a vote in my state.

As for the ethnic minorites I don't have an issue with them per se. However I do have an issue with folk who were for Prop. 8 but not so much so that it would cause them to get off their arses and go to the polling station, however they wanted to vote for Obama and whilst they happened to be at the polling station they voted for Prop 8. If you are going to ammend a Constitution and take people's rights away you ought to have a good reason to do it, which would be more than reason enough to get up and vote anyway regardless of the Presidential election. Such people are screwing around with peoples lives on an issue they don't feel that strongly about anyway. If you believe the analysis of the exit polls then a substantial number of black people fell into this category.