Well, it's not all good news :-(

[fjp999]

I wanna contribute to this thread but dont want me ignorance of the world of politics to show :redface: what are you guys stance's on the mormon aspect of the vote to put pro 8 through? and to a lesser degree the other minorities ala black and hispanic folk who voted yes?

I think, Phil, in answer to your question on this point, that Proposition 8 was probably argued in very simplistic terms and went through largely because malevolent vested interests (including the Mormon leadership) played on people's ignorance, fear and inexperience in the democratic process. If democracy is going to work, everyone who undertakes to vote has a responsibility to become fully aware of the issues, in my opinion. This did not happen in this case. Whether the "No" vote lobby campaigned effectively enough is another issue.

Just read somewhere that protest are going on against the LDS churches because of the HUGE amounts of money put into a YES vote by the LDS churches...

I dont have the numbers in front of me but do understand that not only was this the most money ever spent in a presidential race but Prop 8 had the most money spent in the history of propositions in any state!

I think marsh is correct and the message is a simple one: allowing two men or two women to marry will destroy the heteros marriages. The statistics are against this concept but for some reason it has stuck in the minds of liberal heteros especially the minorities.

UGH... again, like allowing bi-racial marriages to be recognized it will take a constitutional amendment... like what seems to have happened in England... where the politicians just say YES to humans marrying.

it all just exhausts me, LOL