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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified?
Beaux Wrote:It isn't about "comparing faults"! I cannot stand Donald Trump, and Imhave NEVER liked the GOP platform, but that has nothing to do with the FACT that Hillary Clinton participated in Election Rigging!

Clinton supporters are all like, "Yea, we know she eats babies, but.....TRUMP!!!!

Supporting someone who rigs elections is, literally, the most un-democratic position you can take! Smmfh!

~Beaux
Again, im not here to tell anyone how they should vote. By all means vote for Stein if that's what your heart tells you to do. I'm just voicing that I'm legit scared of Trump, of the Republican Platform, the people who support Trump, and the people he might put into power.

I do not believe that voting third party is a wasted vote. I just don't think that a third party president will be elected this year. Jill Stein is not some flawless messiah that will save us from Clinton and Trump. Again, I'm glad the democrats are angry and I'm glad so much attention is being given to Stein, and I hope she makes it into the debates. But there are not enough Greens or angry Democrats to get her elected, yet. And without more Greens in the government, she won't be able to implement their platform anyway.

Short of a revolution we are stuck between Trump and Clinton.

So when I personally weigh those two, it's clear to me which is the less terrifying choice. The things that Trump supports and what his supporters want vs what the democrats want in terms of immigration and exclusion acts, lgbtq rights, the rights of people with disabilities, and race relations are things that will directly effect my life, the lives of my friends and family, and the communities I live in and work with.

Maybe I'm an idiot for not seeing Clinton as such a sinister person as I see Trump. Maybe I'm a bad Green Party member for not jumping on this situation and actively encouraging more democrats to vote for Stein. I'm probably a hypocrite too because as a registered Green, I will most likely vote for Stein too. All I know is that Trump and the people behind him honestly terrify and disturb me, in a way that Clinton and the democrats don't, and running away to Canada is not an option for me and my family.

Right now I'm just encouraging those who are not registered as third party members but who are thinking about voting for a third party candidate this election to consider if their feel good "I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils" protest vote is going to feel as good and righteous 2 years into a Trump presidency as it will on Election Day. Because even republicans who hate Trump are endorsing him and going to vote for him. Not even Ted Cruz and his followers (does he have followers?) are going to vote for Jill Stein. It's the democrats who seem much more fractured right now. And the Greens have already been blamed for one awful president. I worry it will hurt the Green party's credibility and momentum if we get blamed for another. But that sentiment does put me at odds with Stein because she really is trying to get that Bernie vote.


Anyway, I'm just ranting because I'm very unhappy with the people and the systems in this country right now and I'm scared for its future, regardless of who the next President is. Not even Stein is equipped in my mind to solve all the social issues we are facing. You have every right to vote how you want. We are headed into a shit storm regardless.
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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 02-27-2016, 02:30 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 02-27-2016, 03:41 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 02-27-2016, 04:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 02-27-2016, 04:39 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 02-27-2016, 07:04 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by EvenOlderButWiser - 02-27-2016, 11:43 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by IndividuellaUni - 02-27-2016, 06:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 02-29-2016, 07:41 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 03-02-2016, 01:54 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 03-02-2016, 07:10 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 03-03-2016, 02:44 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 04-20-2016, 08:55 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 04-20-2016, 11:57 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 04-21-2016, 02:29 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by starlight - 04-22-2016, 02:32 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 04-23-2016, 03:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 04-24-2016, 05:21 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 05-05-2016, 04:18 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-06-2016, 05:37 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 05-06-2016, 05:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-06-2016, 06:18 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-13-2016, 09:23 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by tnfunmagnet - 05-13-2016, 09:29 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 05-14-2016, 12:02 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-14-2016, 01:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Sherbil - 05-20-2016, 11:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-24-2016, 07:27 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-24-2016, 07:36 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 06-07-2016, 08:06 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 06-08-2016, 08:27 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 06-09-2016, 01:03 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 06-24-2016, 02:36 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 06-24-2016, 04:08 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 06-24-2016, 08:40 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-01-2016, 05:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 07-01-2016, 04:37 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-02-2016, 11:26 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-03-2016, 03:11 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 07-03-2016, 03:45 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 07-03-2016, 10:48 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-03-2016, 08:00 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-07-2016, 03:47 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-08-2016, 04:41 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-10-2016, 07:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-10-2016, 08:50 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-10-2016, 04:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-12-2016, 07:50 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-12-2016, 08:29 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-12-2016, 08:13 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 07-13-2016, 01:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-13-2016, 06:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-14-2016, 06:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-14-2016, 07:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 07-26-2016, 02:56 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 07-26-2016, 03:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-26-2016, 03:35 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 07-26-2016, 04:14 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 07-27-2016, 04:24 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by himself - 07-28-2016, 04:54 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-28-2016, 05:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 07-29-2016, 02:53 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 07-31-2016, 04:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-31-2016, 06:51 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-01-2016, 07:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-01-2016, 07:22 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 08-02-2016, 06:47 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-02-2016, 09:46 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 08-03-2016, 03:29 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 08-03-2016, 04:06 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-03-2016, 05:05 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-04-2016, 05:10 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-04-2016, 08:45 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-04-2016, 04:15 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-15-2016, 08:59 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-15-2016, 11:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-20-2016, 02:33 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 07:06 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 07:15 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 08:14 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 08:41 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-22-2016, 04:43 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-22-2016, 04:45 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-22-2016, 08:05 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-23-2016, 11:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-25-2016, 07:50 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-25-2016, 07:53 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-25-2016, 08:04 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-25-2016, 07:24 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-31-2016, 03:32 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Rareboy - 08-31-2016, 08:46 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 09-01-2016, 06:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-02-2016, 04:56 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-02-2016, 11:30 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 09-04-2016, 12:53 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 09-05-2016, 05:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 09-05-2016, 11:29 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by MisterMagoo - 09-05-2016, 11:31 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 09-06-2016, 03:04 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Cheet0V90 - 09-09-2016, 06:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Cheet0V90 - 09-15-2016, 08:48 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Cheet0V90 - 09-16-2016, 06:52 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 09-25-2016, 02:24 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 03:14 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 03:57 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 04:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 04:44 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 05:06 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by CorsacReborn - 09-27-2016, 04:24 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 10-03-2016, 11:05 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 10-04-2016, 08:47 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 10-04-2016, 09:58 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 10-05-2016, 03:55 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 10-08-2016, 08:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 10-13-2016, 02:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 10-13-2016, 03:18 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 10-13-2016, 04:29 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 10-13-2016, 09:43 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 10-14-2016, 03:59 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 10-18-2016, 08:15 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 10-20-2016, 03:56 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by newavir - 10-24-2016, 07:40 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Dreamer - 10-30-2016, 02:09 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-03-2016, 05:33 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Gregoryagogo - 11-04-2016, 02:56 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-05-2016, 01:46 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-05-2016, 09:05 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-06-2016, 02:51 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 04:33 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-06-2016, 04:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 05:21 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-06-2016, 05:43 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 05:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 05:58 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 06:39 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 06:51 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-06-2016, 11:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-08-2016, 08:40 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-08-2016, 05:15 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 06:28 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 08:42 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 08:59 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 09:23 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 09:36 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-08-2016, 11:49 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-09-2016, 03:54 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-09-2016, 07:38 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-09-2016, 08:22 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JustAperson - 11-09-2016, 10:03 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 05:30 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 11-10-2016, 05:43 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 06:08 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 06:09 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 06:38 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 06:38 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 07:14 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 07:24 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 07:27 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 07:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 08:17 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-10-2016, 03:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-10-2016, 07:01 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-11-2016, 04:22 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 05:34 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 11-11-2016, 03:30 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 04:31 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 04:44 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 11-11-2016, 08:00 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 08:28 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by himself - 11-11-2016, 08:45 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 09:29 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 01:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 01:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 02:05 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 02:16 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 02:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-12-2016, 02:55 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 03:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-12-2016, 03:33 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-12-2016, 05:20 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-13-2016, 12:21 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-14-2016, 06:14 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-14-2016, 06:40 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-14-2016, 02:40 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-15-2016, 03:48 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-15-2016, 09:23 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-15-2016, 09:28 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-15-2016, 07:03 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-16-2016, 04:02 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-16-2016, 04:36 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-16-2016, 05:00 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-16-2016, 03:41 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-16-2016, 05:22 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-16-2016, 06:25 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-16-2016, 06:43 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-17-2016, 02:08 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-17-2016, 02:17 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-17-2016, 02:30 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-17-2016, 04:43 AM
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