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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified?
artyboy Wrote:Hmmm Italy comes to mind and France, the EU lol. Eh they have similar government system than the USA.

France mostly. But governance itself is still a bit different.

The aspect that interests us, elections, is still not comparable. France elects its president by popular vote, with a run off when there is no majority. That has no relation with the US Electoral College system, in which all the votes that Stein got, for instance, might have as well not existed at all and if Clinton got almost half the votes of Florida, it didn't matter cause the whole state went to Trump by the rules of the game in place.

The French electoral system works just like ours (well, ours like the French is more like it) . But here the myriad of parties usually form coalitions, one center-left and one center-right and give one presidential candidate each, with one or more independents usually carrying 20% of the votes.

This pseudo-biparty system would look a lot like the one in US. And that is my point here. Even if there were many more parties in US, tendencies for presidential systems in the Americas would still force similar leaning parties to gravitate around each other in order to secure elections as a block and not dilute votes and risk losing the elections all together.

That doesn't seem happen in Europe quite like that, maybe because for the most part proportional representation is mandated by law, or so I understand it to be.
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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 02-27-2016, 02:30 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 02-27-2016, 03:41 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 02-27-2016, 04:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 02-27-2016, 04:39 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 02-27-2016, 07:04 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by EvenOlderButWiser - 02-27-2016, 11:43 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by IndividuellaUni - 02-27-2016, 06:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 02-29-2016, 07:41 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 03-02-2016, 01:54 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 03-02-2016, 07:10 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 03-03-2016, 02:44 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 04-20-2016, 08:55 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 04-20-2016, 11:57 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 04-21-2016, 02:29 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by starlight - 04-22-2016, 02:32 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 04-23-2016, 03:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 04-24-2016, 05:21 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 05-05-2016, 04:18 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-06-2016, 05:37 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 05-06-2016, 05:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-06-2016, 06:18 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-13-2016, 09:23 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by tnfunmagnet - 05-13-2016, 09:29 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 05-14-2016, 12:02 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-14-2016, 01:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Sherbil - 05-20-2016, 11:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-24-2016, 07:27 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 05-24-2016, 07:36 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 06-07-2016, 08:06 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 06-08-2016, 08:27 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 06-09-2016, 01:03 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 06-24-2016, 02:36 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 06-24-2016, 04:08 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 06-24-2016, 08:40 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-01-2016, 05:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 07-01-2016, 04:37 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-02-2016, 11:26 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-03-2016, 03:11 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 07-03-2016, 03:45 AM
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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-03-2016, 08:00 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-07-2016, 03:47 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-08-2016, 04:41 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-10-2016, 07:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-10-2016, 08:50 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-10-2016, 04:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-12-2016, 07:50 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-12-2016, 08:29 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-12-2016, 08:13 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 07-13-2016, 01:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-13-2016, 06:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-14-2016, 06:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-14-2016, 07:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 07-26-2016, 02:56 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 07-26-2016, 03:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-26-2016, 03:35 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 07-26-2016, 04:14 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 07-27-2016, 04:24 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by himself - 07-28-2016, 04:54 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 07-28-2016, 05:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 07-29-2016, 02:53 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 07-31-2016, 04:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 07-31-2016, 06:51 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-01-2016, 07:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-01-2016, 07:22 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 08-02-2016, 06:47 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-02-2016, 09:46 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 08-03-2016, 03:29 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 08-03-2016, 04:06 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-03-2016, 05:05 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-04-2016, 05:10 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-04-2016, 08:45 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-04-2016, 04:15 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-15-2016, 08:59 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-15-2016, 11:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-20-2016, 02:33 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 07:06 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 07:15 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 08:14 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-21-2016, 08:41 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-22-2016, 04:43 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-22-2016, 04:45 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-22-2016, 08:05 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 08-23-2016, 11:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-25-2016, 07:50 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-25-2016, 07:53 AM
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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 08-25-2016, 07:24 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 08-31-2016, 03:32 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Rareboy - 08-31-2016, 08:46 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 09-01-2016, 06:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-02-2016, 04:56 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-02-2016, 11:30 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 09-04-2016, 12:53 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 09-05-2016, 05:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 09-05-2016, 11:29 PM
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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 09-06-2016, 03:04 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Cheet0V90 - 09-09-2016, 06:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Cheet0V90 - 09-15-2016, 08:48 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Cheet0V90 - 09-16-2016, 06:52 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 09-25-2016, 02:24 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 03:14 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 03:57 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 04:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 04:44 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 09-26-2016, 05:06 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by CorsacReborn - 09-27-2016, 04:24 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 10-03-2016, 11:05 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 10-04-2016, 08:47 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 10-04-2016, 09:58 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 10-05-2016, 03:55 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 10-08-2016, 08:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 10-13-2016, 02:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 10-13-2016, 03:18 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 10-13-2016, 04:29 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 10-13-2016, 09:43 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 10-14-2016, 03:59 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by knickerbuck - 10-18-2016, 08:15 PM
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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Dreamer - 10-30-2016, 02:09 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-03-2016, 05:33 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Gregoryagogo - 11-04-2016, 02:56 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-05-2016, 01:46 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-05-2016, 09:05 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-06-2016, 02:51 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 04:33 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-06-2016, 04:57 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 05:21 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-06-2016, 05:43 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 05:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 05:58 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 06:39 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-06-2016, 06:51 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-06-2016, 11:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-08-2016, 08:40 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-08-2016, 05:15 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 06:28 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 08:42 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 08:59 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 09:23 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-08-2016, 09:36 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-08-2016, 11:49 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-09-2016, 03:54 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-09-2016, 07:38 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-09-2016, 08:22 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JustAperson - 11-09-2016, 10:03 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 05:30 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 11-10-2016, 05:43 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 06:08 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 06:09 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 06:38 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 06:38 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 07:14 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 07:24 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 07:27 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-10-2016, 07:52 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-10-2016, 08:17 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-10-2016, 03:16 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-10-2016, 07:01 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-11-2016, 04:22 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 05:34 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by JohnMusic - 11-11-2016, 03:30 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 04:31 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 04:44 PM
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Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 08:28 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by himself - 11-11-2016, 08:45 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-11-2016, 09:29 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 01:15 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 01:46 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 02:05 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 02:16 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 02:44 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-12-2016, 02:55 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-12-2016, 03:19 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Insertnamehere - 11-12-2016, 03:26 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-12-2016, 03:33 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-12-2016, 05:20 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-13-2016, 12:21 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-14-2016, 06:14 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-14-2016, 06:40 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by kindy64 - 11-14-2016, 02:40 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Confuzzled4 - 11-15-2016, 03:48 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-15-2016, 09:23 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by SilverBullet - 11-15-2016, 09:28 AM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by NativeSon - 11-15-2016, 07:03 PM
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified? - by Emiliano - 11-16-2016, 04:02 AM
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