Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified?

[Emiliano]

Just so you know, I'm not going to come down on your head for voting third party. And though I voted for Clinton to oppose Trump (and really unhappy with a Trump victory), as I know many did, it annoys me that these votes against someone else are then treated as an endorsement for the "lesser evil" voted for.

Right now the general division and nastiness bothers me than any one candidate. Trump, and the election in which he won, is a symptom of a much greater problem in the USA.

Though I did vote against Trump by voting Hillary, it still hasn't escaped my attention how self-serving and manipulative a lot of rants against third party voters are, as perfectly illustrated in a comic on the previous page of this thread. More than that, I've heard those on the Democrat side have expressed a desire for mandatory voting in the USA as is done in Australia (at least it's better than the nasty tricks some Republicans use to keep people from voting), but NOT for preferential voting that is also used in Australia...because then we'd finally know how many are voting Democrat out of true solidarity, and how many are just voting Democrat because it's seen as the lesser evil (and if many are voting Democrat as the lesser evil then a third party might finally win a high office rather than a Democrat!).

And just so you know, I didn't vote Stein. I went to vote in a state I knew I was going to go blue anyway, confident as all fuck that Clinton was going to win because thats what all the media and the polls were saying, and when I held the pencil over my ballot, I made the choice in that moment that I would vote Clinton.

One, I think it is integral that we don't just say anyone can be president, but that we actually see anyone being president. I wanted to participate in the election of our first female president. She wasn't my ideal president, but she also didn't terrify me.

Two, even if Greens were the silent majority and on election night we all got shocked with a landslide election putting Stein into office, I knew that she would ill equipped to get any green policies though. Im a proud Green and firm believer in what they stand for, but I stand by what I said in this thread - You cant build the roof of the house before you build the foundation and the walls. You can't elect a Green president until Greens are well represented in congress and on the local scale.

Three, in the snowball chance in hell that Trump won the election, I know I wouldn't have felt right with myself had I not aligned my vote with the party I thought had the best chance in defeating him.




And, Im interested in what you mean when you said "Right now the general division and nastiness bothers me than any one candidate. Trump, and the election in which he won, is a symptom of a much greater problem in the USA. "