There is no LGBT community

[Emiliano]

Because straight men aren't romantically attracted to each other. Gay men are. So that's one aspect. Gay men feel naturally suppressed upon and feel they need to be around others that understand their struggle.

Also similar to like how I mentioned with gay men, straight men intermingle with their occupations or hobby. But the fact they aren't attracted to each other, it's easier for them to culture clash. It's natural for men to be around other men. It's not natural for men to be around men that they are attracted to or might show attraction to.

So I guess to follow on what you said, gay men already feel bad being attracted to men, they at least want to stick around guys that understand their struggle and identity. Fem guys usually circulate with fem guys, masculine guys hang with masculine guys etc.

I just see way more straight men of all races and personalities together. Like in sitcoms, the main character will have male friends of all degrees. A stocky idiot savant sidekick, token black friend, nerd or geeky type guy, older neighborly guy etc.

You don't see that with gay guys. The bears hang with the bears, the fems hang with the fems, the average gays hang with the average gays. Everyone else fends for themselves and heaven help them.

I'd be cautious about applying what you see in tv shows or films or print ads on to how things really are. For one thing, its the same formula in most shows, its the same tropes and cliches - which you did describe perfectly. For another thing, gay men are very much underrepresented in the media. When you do see gay characters they are usually pretty flat and stereotypical, and only reflect certain "types" of gay men.

I dont know what the culture in LA is like, I have never been off the east coast. But when you go out, what kind of bars / clubs / locations do you go to? Like, where do you see men?


Also, because you brought attraction into it, which I wasn't thinking of but now you got me thinking about it, I'm sure it has a big influence - does our sexual attraction need to limit our ability to have meaningful interactions with eachother, to have a shared identity with eachother? If we choose to only surround ourselves with either men who are like us, or men we are sexually attracted to, what does that say about us? Are gay men, maybe, too sexually focused and motivated?