09-14-2016, 08:02 AM
Meridannight, you have some very intersting things to say and reading them makes me want to say a couple of things, not in aargument, but just as a different viewpoint.
I see Michelangelo's David as being very alive. The elongated arm shows potential action and the cherubic face casts eternal youth over the figure. That's just what I see and, being a piece of art, the work can just as easily say that to me as it can say what you see to you.
And then there is this:
"If you imagine a society where homosexuality has always existed and been visible and acceptable alongside heterosexuality, I do think such a society would not suffer from de-masculinization of gay men, or suffer from it to a significantly reduced and less serious degree."
Is not Late Roman culture an example of this? No one that I know considers the men of that era as anything but "masculine" though homosexuality was open and familiar in society.
I see Michelangelo's David as being very alive. The elongated arm shows potential action and the cherubic face casts eternal youth over the figure. That's just what I see and, being a piece of art, the work can just as easily say that to me as it can say what you see to you.
And then there is this:
"If you imagine a society where homosexuality has always existed and been visible and acceptable alongside heterosexuality, I do think such a society would not suffer from de-masculinization of gay men, or suffer from it to a significantly reduced and less serious degree."
Is not Late Roman culture an example of this? No one that I know considers the men of that era as anything but "masculine" though homosexuality was open and familiar in society.
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