10-15-2016, 01:18 PM
[MENTION=23180]axle2152[/MENTION] ....there are alot of actual non partisan fact based sites out there that you can trust....
If somebody says you can't trust them..they have an agenda....don't argue with them. Find their agenda instead...you will learn alot more about them that way.
Politifact is one of the honest sites...they have won the Pulitzer Prize....
Snopes is good too....
There are others.
The hate Bill and Hillary got from the right from Day One was unprecedented I think...from the beginning. They kept inventing crap about them and spinning out..it was very annoying. I checked and rechecked their claims against the facts before I wrote off the detractors..and I was never really a huge fan of either of them BUT I thought they were both competent people and he easily got my vote. He moved us forward....
Hillary won my vote as Secretary of State and it is when I decided she would be a good President. I didn't vote for her in 2008...but I didn't hate her either. I didn't like Obama either...I wanted Dennis Kucinich..and when he dropped out.Ralph Nader...but I plugged my nose and voted for Obama so Sarah Palin didn't get anywhere near the White House.
The only President I ever loved was Jimmy Carter. I might love Obama...I am getting closer to the point where I do.
If somebody says you can't trust them..they have an agenda....don't argue with them. Find their agenda instead...you will learn alot more about them that way.
Politifact is one of the honest sites...they have won the Pulitzer Prize....
Snopes is good too....
There are others.
The hate Bill and Hillary got from the right from Day One was unprecedented I think...from the beginning. They kept inventing crap about them and spinning out..it was very annoying. I checked and rechecked their claims against the facts before I wrote off the detractors..and I was never really a huge fan of either of them BUT I thought they were both competent people and he easily got my vote. He moved us forward....
Hillary won my vote as Secretary of State and it is when I decided she would be a good President. I didn't vote for her in 2008...but I didn't hate her either. I didn't like Obama either...I wanted Dennis Kucinich..and when he dropped out.Ralph Nader...but I plugged my nose and voted for Obama so Sarah Palin didn't get anywhere near the White House.
The only President I ever loved was Jimmy Carter. I might love Obama...I am getting closer to the point where I do.
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