10-18-2016, 02:43 AM
(Edited 10-18-2016, 02:54 AM by meridannight.)
I am well-aware of the intersex conditions. That's why I said biologically male or female rather than genetically male or female. In any case, intersex conditions don't help your argument, since most of them still identify discretely either male or female.
[MENTION=1766]princealbertofb[/MENTION], I am confused as to what you mean by 'being born with two genders'. Do you mean the genetic chimerism? That would be a better argument, if only such chimerism produced an individual who identified as something in between male and female. Which still is not the case, from what I've read. And in any case I don't support the premise that one or two (supposed) exceptions abolish our whole understanding of gender.
I have not seen a convincing argument for your case yet. Most in-favor points are flimsy at best, specifically tailored to suit their purpose. Whichever way you wanna look at this, absolutely every person is either biologically* male or biologically female when you get down to it. There's no arguing with the facts resulting from it.
* By this I mean both, their reproductive organs, and the testosterone/estrogen ratio. Whichever one has a more definitive influence. Maybe, 'physiologic' gender is a better term to use.
[MENTION=1766]princealbertofb[/MENTION], I am confused as to what you mean by 'being born with two genders'. Do you mean the genetic chimerism? That would be a better argument, if only such chimerism produced an individual who identified as something in between male and female. Which still is not the case, from what I've read. And in any case I don't support the premise that one or two (supposed) exceptions abolish our whole understanding of gender.
I have not seen a convincing argument for your case yet. Most in-favor points are flimsy at best, specifically tailored to suit their purpose. Whichever way you wanna look at this, absolutely every person is either biologically* male or biologically female when you get down to it. There's no arguing with the facts resulting from it.
* By this I mean both, their reproductive organs, and the testosterone/estrogen ratio. Whichever one has a more definitive influence. Maybe, 'physiologic' gender is a better term to use.
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