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Firearms
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Again, not trying to be a dick or anything like that and note that I am neither a firearms expert and I don't consider myself a "gun advocate" but I suppose I might sound like one here. So take what I say with a grain of salt and do your own research.

The full text of the 2nd amendment is simply this...

Quote:A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

So some people do interpret it that way and some people do think people should be able to arm themselves however they please. For the most part, I'm ok with that...until shit like Jan 6th happens. It is interesting that the 2nd amendment doesn't mention self-defense specifically but depending on how you interpret it may be under the umbrella of "keep and bear arms."

I think the biggest problem I see with gun laws and deciding on what should and shouldn't happen is the lack of knowledge among the general population. For example. AR-15, it is semi-automatic. What is semi-automatic? That means when I pull the trigger the gun will load another round in the chamber, I can only fire one round each time I pull the trigger. So, one might say, well ban semi-automatic firearms. Well the thing is most handguns are semi-automatic... Revolvers, pistols like a Glock are all semi-automatic. They all work differently on how they load a round. The AR-15 again, uses .223 (NATO 5.56 mm) ammo, which is fairly stout but far from the most powerful ammunition. Some people do use an AR-15 for hunting. How many? I don't know and I don't know how practical it is to use an AR-15 for hunting as I have: 1. Not fired an AR-15 and 2. I don't hunt (remember that taking what I say with a grain of salt?). That being said I know there are both handguns and hunting rifles that shoot way more powerful rounds.

So, what I am saying here? The AR-15 looks scary and that's what the anti-gun gang wants you to think, it's a big scary gun used for nothing else. The term "assault weapon" is made up as well, whereas assault rifle is a fully automatic rifle which for nearly all of us is illegal to have (unless it has been registered by the federal government, meaning you have to have a federal firearms license). The problem with gun violence goes well beyond people wanting AR-15's.

The problem is you cannot predict what someone will do. Even if you have laws to try to prevent mass shootings, they seldom work. The shooting in California is a prime example of red flag laws not working. They guy was stopped at the border and had every sign that something isn't right. That being said, I think more can be done here. It's not so much whether I am for or against red flag laws, frankly I don't know what's in them. It seems like any time there is a mass shooting the laws we have on the books didn't help.

Now before people start saying we just need to ban all guns period. Understand that other countries that don't allow firearms, they just use knives, ballbats, poison or bombs. Firearms are an equalizer, there's plenty of instances where someone could have become a victim and because they had a firearm were able to defend themselves. At the same time there are people who use their firearm, thinking it is self defense and got charged with manslaughter.

Finally, should there be a limit? I do think there should be limit, where that is I am unsure simply because I just don't know enough about some of these weapons but stuff like .50 BMG is pretty overkill (and also the largest caliber allowed under the National Firearms Act) for most civilians. I don't think anyone should have a gun in hopes they "get to shoot someone" in self-defense either. I do think people should be able to demonstrate some level of proficiency in safely handling a firearm and that they demonstrate some level of marksmanship, understand their state's laws concerning firearms and self defense. I think some of the existing gun laws are good and do help but no law will stop people from breaking the laws and taking guns out of law abiding citizens' hands won't stop the black market. It isn't a black and white issue like some seem to think, it is quite complex.

Again, I'm not trying to be an ass or anything like that. I realize everyone has their own experiences, backgrounds and thus opinions. As I stated in the first post I realize that the idea of a civilian owning and possessing a gun might seem strange.

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Messages In This Thread
Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-14-2021, 10:07 PM
RE: Firearms - by Bhp91126 - 05-14-2021, 11:15 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-17-2021, 02:55 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-15-2021, 03:21 AM
RE: Firearms - by Chase - 05-16-2021, 04:55 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-16-2021, 07:47 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-17-2021, 11:01 AM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-17-2021, 11:43 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-17-2021, 01:37 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-18-2021, 04:20 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-18-2021, 05:04 AM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-18-2021, 06:45 AM
RE: Firearms - by Chase - 05-18-2021, 03:20 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 05-20-2021, 06:35 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-18-2021, 05:32 PM
RE: Firearms - by The Goof - 05-19-2021, 07:52 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-19-2021, 08:07 PM
RE: Firearms - by The Goof - 05-19-2021, 08:19 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 05-21-2021, 08:35 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-21-2021, 09:15 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 05-22-2021, 03:47 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 05-21-2021, 09:22 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-03-2021, 03:16 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-03-2021, 12:25 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-03-2021, 05:31 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-03-2021, 05:47 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-04-2021, 11:57 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-04-2021, 08:05 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-05-2021, 01:01 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-05-2021, 03:14 AM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-05-2021, 05:26 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-05-2021, 06:07 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-05-2021, 07:50 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-05-2021, 09:23 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-05-2021, 11:26 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-06-2021, 12:52 AM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-06-2021, 04:18 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-06-2021, 01:38 PM
RE: Firearms - by calgor - 06-17-2021, 08:05 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-17-2021, 09:31 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-18-2021, 12:32 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-18-2021, 03:53 AM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-18-2021, 07:57 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-18-2021, 02:51 PM
RE: Firearms - by Karl Rand - 06-19-2021, 08:11 AM
RE: Firearms - by JoelR - 06-20-2021, 01:10 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-20-2021, 02:29 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-28-2021, 06:19 PM
RE: Firearms - by ceez - 06-29-2021, 11:24 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 06-29-2021, 12:43 PM
RE: Firearms - by JoelR - 07-04-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 07-05-2021, 01:44 PM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-18-2021, 01:29 PM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-18-2021, 09:48 PM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 08-18-2021, 11:40 PM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-19-2021, 12:17 AM
RE: Firearms - by InbetweenDreams - 08-19-2021, 12:56 AM
RE: Firearms - by Adam88 - 08-19-2021, 01:10 AM

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