08-22-2009, 02:06 PM
marshlander Wrote:I find myself divided over whether Helmer should lose his Conservative membership or not. At least while he's there we can all see that some Tory traditions are not a thing of the past as David Cameron would try to have us believe.
I find the notion that the entire Labour party to have fully accepted gay rights to be naive to say the least. Accepting points of view are in the majority and clearly are in firm control of the reins of power within the party, but to say that every last member has a similar point of view on the subject stretches credulity. Similarly, there has been a revolution within the Conservative party (partly instigated by Cameron but also well in existence before him) with a shift in power from older socially more conservative figures to younger more socially liberal figures. Claims that Cameron has somehow exterminated older points of view are laughable but neither are they going to reclaim power for the foreseeable future.
Fred
Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans.
Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans.