11-13-2010, 05:25 AM
Really great argument guys, this is why I LOVE THIS SITE!! You guys are awesome!
Marshlander, do you honestly think a sexual proclivity, or sexual nature, has to be justified? Homosexuals too were once in a boat with people that deviated from the sexual nature of heterosexuality. We (homosexuals) too once sought, (and attained, on some level) justification for our sexual nature as well. Now we are merely being tolerated by people who cannot or will not accept the science behind homosexuality, or sexual choices in general. I just think a fair and deep research on any sexual choice is warranted, before utter hate and condemnation of a group whose sexual choice differs from that of heterosexuality. This is not an advocacy of paedophilia, merely a neutral stance on it. Incidentally, an excellent post!!
This is beautifully philosophical and is accurate to certain contexts. However, it is not quite worked out. As, if I were to think, âThat Bitchâ, it is merely, a thought invoked by my hatred of arbitrary girl, which will invoke no manifestation/actions/desire to harm said girl.
Actually, a desire, however latent, will be acted upon! According to you as well, as you have said, âthoughts are expressions of desire, and desires will eventually become manifestâ.
I am quite sorry you find this comparison insulting, and I wish you would have pointed out the nuances of the arguments that compare these two sexualities that bothers you deeply. But if I may, the argument/s are merely saying that sexual nature is not a choice (which is clearly arguable, see the Nature vs. Nurture debate) and that it should be compared to ALL sexual tendencies for the sole purpose of giving it understanding for the sexual desires of paedophiles. We are NOT arguing justification of it, which in my opinion, it needs no justification, but we are arguing that people merely try to understand it.
The age of consent was once decided by tribes, fathers of the females, etc. and horrifyingly, the ages did not matter, or were extremely low. Iâve posted an article that has varying ages from different times over the years.
Age of Consent - Encyclopedia of Children and Childhood in History and Society
Quote:I can only think it must be hell on earth for adults to find themselves driven to seek children for sex. No wonder some of them seek to justify their desires by attempting to normalise their activities. How could they live with themselves otherwise?
Marshlander, do you honestly think a sexual proclivity, or sexual nature, has to be justified? Homosexuals too were once in a boat with people that deviated from the sexual nature of heterosexuality. We (homosexuals) too once sought, (and attained, on some level) justification for our sexual nature as well. Now we are merely being tolerated by people who cannot or will not accept the science behind homosexuality, or sexual choices in general. I just think a fair and deep research on any sexual choice is warranted, before utter hate and condemnation of a group whose sexual choice differs from that of heterosexuality. This is not an advocacy of paedophilia, merely a neutral stance on it. Incidentally, an excellent post!!
Quote:thoughts are expressions of desire, and desires will eventually become manifest.
This is beautifully philosophical and is accurate to certain contexts. However, it is not quite worked out. As, if I were to think, âThat Bitchâ, it is merely, a thought invoked by my hatred of arbitrary girl, which will invoke no manifestation/actions/desire to harm said girl.
Quote:Yet they would choose to override this knowledge because of a latent desire
Actually, a desire, however latent, will be acted upon! According to you as well, as you have said, âthoughts are expressions of desire, and desires will eventually become manifestâ.
Quote:I find the comparison to homosexuality quite insulting, and hope this comparison is never made in further debate.
I am quite sorry you find this comparison insulting, and I wish you would have pointed out the nuances of the arguments that compare these two sexualities that bothers you deeply. But if I may, the argument/s are merely saying that sexual nature is not a choice (which is clearly arguable, see the Nature vs. Nurture debate) and that it should be compared to ALL sexual tendencies for the sole purpose of giving it understanding for the sexual desires of paedophiles. We are NOT arguing justification of it, which in my opinion, it needs no justification, but we are arguing that people merely try to understand it.
Quote:these creepers are trying to accomplish real goals like legally lowering the sexual age of consent, which is already 16 it literally canât get any lower.
The age of consent was once decided by tribes, fathers of the females, etc. and horrifyingly, the ages did not matter, or were extremely low. Iâve posted an article that has varying ages from different times over the years.
Age of Consent - Encyclopedia of Children and Childhood in History and Society
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