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"Free will?" WTF?
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Rainbowmum Wrote:(I love it when you play the devils advocate Wink)

It only chooses the data a coder will place there for it in the boundaries of mathematical logic.
It is programed ,it has no other choices than the data permits.

Unlike living creatures the A.I. does not have an internal map of the universe that is made up of perception,experience, pain,smell,sound and vision ( although vision in it self is based on perception.)
It only can operate via the data that has been programed into it.
Thus the A.I. is totally reliant on it's programing and does not have any other choice.

With me, I have a choice , I can choose to sit on ice although my eternal map of the universe will warn me that doing so will not be exactly a pleasant experience.
I still have the freedom to do either do so or not do so.

Granted , the code of ethics that is in place for us via laws , can be restrictive for our own benefit , as I am of mind that if man was left to no laws we would self destruct in an instant.

Now that being said , If i were a murdering narcissist and choose to follow my hearts desire and lead a complete hedonistic life style ,( as in if it feels good do it )that is my choice , my free will ,and the only thing that will stop me is the law or death.

My choices are not per-programed ,I know what the consequences of my actions will be , yet I will continue doing what my heart desires.

I would like to differ first on your perception of A.I.; I don't believe it is approached in the fashion that you think. I believe it is aproached in exactly the way you describe humans as making decisions.
but let me do something awful. Let me digress purposely from the main thrust of my response to ask you a question a little off the last mark.
There are prothstetics that return information from sensors in the prosthetic and wich take impulses from the muscles so that you can control a fake hand with your brain and feel it as well. It is not as sophisticated as nature - yet. The same is true with fake eyes. We can take signals generated by electronic sensors and feed them into the brain where a visual is then created in the brain itself and the person can see. Not as well with the natural eye - as yet. So there is no reason to suppose sometime in the future the following can take place: my brain could be replaced bit by bit. First the eyes, and the nervous system up to the pons; then the olfactory nerves and facial nerves and taste buds; etc. until we start replacing parts of the brain proper. Begin with the cerebelum and you have fine motor controls done by a chip. move onto the left temporal lobe and you replace speach and other closely related functions and so on and so on. Until finaly there is no part of me left.
Brain surgery is done with the subject awake and answering questions so as to be sure they are fully conscious and functioning while it proceedes. They only go to sleep afterwards to heal. So one could be awake and aware for the entire process. So when there is no me left, yet with out a break in consciousness at any time, is the computer wich is then me conscious? It would put together the world in precisely the same way as me. Have my memories, etc... - not theoretically impossible.
What of it?
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Messages In This Thread
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 07:45 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Aester - 11-30-2011, 09:21 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 11-30-2011, 04:24 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 11-30-2011, 04:47 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 11-30-2011, 10:25 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 11-30-2011, 10:30 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 10:31 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 10:38 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 12:30 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 01:29 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 01:51 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by fenris - 12-01-2011, 02:08 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 02:09 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 02:42 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 03:03 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 04:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 04:47 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 05:06 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 05:09 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 06:00 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Inchante - 12-01-2011, 06:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 06:32 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:22 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:26 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:38 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 07:43 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:44 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 08:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 08:20 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 08:38 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 09:26 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 10:13 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-01-2011, 11:01 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 12-01-2011, 07:24 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Inchante - 12-01-2011, 07:43 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-02-2011, 05:53 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 04:34 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 07:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 07:27 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 09:39 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 02:18 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 05:48 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 05:53 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-04-2011, 06:36 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 09:25 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 09:33 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-04-2011, 10:09 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 10:17 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-05-2011, 02:12 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ObnoxiousKid - 12-05-2011, 02:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 02:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 05:00 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 05:22 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 06:15 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 06:33 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 06:55 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:04 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-05-2011, 07:44 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 07:47 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by gfxtwin - 12-05-2011, 03:19 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Genersis - 12-05-2011, 04:14 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:16 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:18 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-06-2011, 02:20 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-06-2011, 03:32 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-06-2011, 07:18 PM

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