Rate Thread
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
"Free will?" WTF?
#19
ZackT Wrote:I agree that to an extent, we're all programmed to make decisions in a certain way. Free Will is something that exists in that sense, that we do have the capability to disregard that programming if we think it's worthwhile.

But we still generally don't because it can be very bad for us if we do.

Not always, of course. But that's a whole other discussion to be had on what we should ignore from cultural programming.

I see what you mean about cultural programing and resisting it. Like resisting the idea "queer" means 'bad' to somebody of my generation, perhaps. What I am thinking though is beyond even that.
I start from this perspective: We have a brain that is structured first by our genes and then by hormones before we are born. Our brain would be like a computer, because it is run on a lot of little ones and zeros adding up to remarkable results like the internet. So our brain is like a computer with our neurons and their connections like the memory and programs in a computer. We are born with a lot of things "hard wired" in. Like infants look for a smiling face at birth and bond with the barers thereof. Then we have experiences that alter that wiring wich makes the whole thing very complex. Too complex for humans ever to predict what they will do, but that does not mean not determined. Because in any circumstance there is: 1, your genetic makeup; 2, your experiences; and 3. what you actually do. So you have one actual past and one actual action and one actual brain with a precise brain state in between. So you have a caused system. Your past and your biological makeup at birth cause you to believe what you do right now, and thus make the decisions from there.
Then I go one step further. I state because things are caused (there is one past, present and future) our behaviour must be determined. Something, even something apperently random, causes each thing. And even if you have actually random rather than appearently random events - say in the brain to cause 'random' decisions - how does that create free will. I can get a computer to act at random. that doesn't imply more will, it implies less.
Is that clear? I would like to answer any questions you have about this.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 07:45 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Aester - 11-30-2011, 09:21 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 11-30-2011, 04:24 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 11-30-2011, 04:47 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 11-30-2011, 10:25 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 11-30-2011, 10:30 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 10:31 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 10:38 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 12:30 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 01:29 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 01:51 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by fenris - 12-01-2011, 02:08 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 02:09 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 02:42 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 03:03 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 04:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 04:47 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 05:06 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 05:09 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 06:00 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Inchante - 12-01-2011, 06:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 06:32 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:22 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:26 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:38 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 07:43 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:44 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 08:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 08:20 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 08:38 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 09:26 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 10:13 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-01-2011, 11:01 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 12-01-2011, 07:24 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Inchante - 12-01-2011, 07:43 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-02-2011, 05:53 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 04:34 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 07:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 07:27 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 09:39 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 02:18 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 05:48 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 05:53 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-04-2011, 06:36 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 09:25 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 09:33 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-04-2011, 10:09 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 10:17 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-05-2011, 02:12 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ObnoxiousKid - 12-05-2011, 02:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 02:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 05:00 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 05:22 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 06:15 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 06:33 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 06:55 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:04 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-05-2011, 07:44 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 07:47 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by gfxtwin - 12-05-2011, 03:19 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Genersis - 12-05-2011, 04:14 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:16 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:18 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-06-2011, 02:20 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-06-2011, 03:32 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-06-2011, 07:18 PM

Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Nuclear Free New Zealand. Yes or No? Lilitu 10 3,353 08-08-2012, 07:08 AM
Last Post: nikgee
  Can gay sex be risk free? 0 530 less than 1 minute ago
Last Post:

Forum Jump:


Recently Browsing
1 Guest(s)

© 2002-2024 GaySpeak.com