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"Free will?" WTF?
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Bowyn Aerrow Wrote:Thinking on this a bit more.

The fundamentalist Christian believes the following:

6500 years ago (approximately) God took 6 days to create the earth and the heavens. He had to rest at the end of each night and took a seventh day because He was exhausted.

On the 6th day God created man in His own image, gave the creature a bit of curiosity and placed in the middle of a garden two trees, a tree of life and tree of knowledge. God Said 'Now Adam, I don't want you eating of these two trees, on the day you do you shall surely die.'

God might as well have told Adam, Go, eat - because God just didn't seem to understand the reverse effect His Command would have on His creation. Eve and then Adam ate of the Tree of Knowledge. God found out, instead of carrying through with the punishment, it was down graded to just a threat level, demonstrating to the Adam that hell we can do anything we want, there is no consequences.

Then God spends the rest of the next several thousand years mucking about, making one mistake after another trying to perfect His creation.

He still hasn't hit upon success.
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The God of Science.

In the beginning there was nothing but a singular point of everything. No time, No space. Suddenly, for no reason everything sprang into being, we call it the Big Bang.

We don't know what caused the Big Bang, science being science they can't just say 'Oh God did it' but we all are pretty certain that yep, God did it.... it will take a few thousand years before we can prove that.

Anyway. From one instant moment God created the universe. From that split second everything in the universe was set into motion. Gassed formed into stars which ignited and burned, planets from from stellar dust, and life sprang up on at least one (Earth) and over the course of billions of years events took place, forming and reforming and pushing the evolutionary processes to lead to a hominid smart enough to use tools and form thoughts complicated enough to say 'Gee, I wonder who started all of this'.

The God of Science, the Big Bang, Evolution is by far the most interesting and awesome God we have. Without needing to tweak or muck about with the machinery, He has created a whole universe from a single moment that has unfailingly lead to us and leads to the universe. So smart is this particular God, he hasn't left so much as a smudged thumbprint of His existence. However billions of humans know that this Supreme Entity exists, they speak of His whispering in their hearts, they talk of the 'coincidences' that look like miracles to them, they are convinced without a single object of proof that this God Person is actually out there.

Unfortunately, the greed of a few humans has worked hard to Cash in on this God Concept and has enslaved billions to religion while forcing people to be blind to the true miracles that take place around them day to day... such as the small fact that they are alive to wonder at all.

You have said a lot here. You have failed to answer the only question I put before you. You are at decision point. You have many ways you may go. But you will choose one and only one. Can you surprise god?
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Messages In This Thread
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 07:45 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Aester - 11-30-2011, 09:21 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 11-30-2011, 04:24 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 11-30-2011, 04:47 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 11-30-2011, 10:25 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 11-30-2011, 10:30 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 10:31 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 11-30-2011, 10:38 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 12:30 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 01:29 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 01:51 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by fenris - 12-01-2011, 02:08 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 02:09 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 02:42 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 03:03 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 04:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 04:47 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 05:06 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 05:09 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 06:00 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Inchante - 12-01-2011, 06:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-01-2011, 06:32 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:22 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:26 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:38 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 07:43 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 07:44 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 08:11 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 08:20 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Rainbowmum - 12-01-2011, 08:38 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-01-2011, 09:26 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-01-2011, 10:13 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-01-2011, 11:01 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by pellaz - 12-01-2011, 07:24 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Inchante - 12-01-2011, 07:43 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-02-2011, 05:53 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 04:34 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 07:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 07:27 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 09:39 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-04-2011, 02:18 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 05:48 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 05:53 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-04-2011, 06:36 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 09:25 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 09:33 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-04-2011, 10:09 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-04-2011, 10:17 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Pix - 12-05-2011, 02:12 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ObnoxiousKid - 12-05-2011, 02:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 02:23 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 05:00 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 05:22 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 06:15 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 06:33 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 06:55 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:04 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-05-2011, 07:44 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by LateBloomer - 12-05-2011, 07:47 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by gfxtwin - 12-05-2011, 03:19 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by Genersis - 12-05-2011, 04:14 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:16 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-05-2011, 07:18 PM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-06-2011, 02:20 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by nullnaught - 12-06-2011, 03:32 AM
"Free will?" WTF? - by ZackT - 12-06-2011, 07:18 PM

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