12-04-2011, 10:17 PM
Pix Wrote:Just for the record I gave up on the "demonize Catholics" thread after the first 3 pages or so as it was just too much to wade through, especially with a lot of it simply going in circles.
But for what it's worth here's what the Catholic ency has to say on the subject of free will:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06259a.htm
I have tried to wade through stuff like that before, and although I haven't read this piece in particular I'm willing to bet it has the same flaw. It assumes an all knowing god and yet insists on 'freewill' wich is a concept that an all knowing god does particular violence to. The idea doesn't make sense in any event, but I am expecting Browyn to bring up any points the Catholics make which he deems to the point.
This is really a discusion for the benefit of people like Zack who haven't decided the issue from faith or thinking it through yet. I will not budge Browyn and he will not budge me. It doesn't mean we aren't doing good by having the debate. I think it is valuable to revisit these ideas regularly, if just for the practice of airing the arguements.
Don't you agree?