12-05-2011, 02:12 AM
I'm totally ok with this thread. It's just that if there's no free will (as opposed to limited free will) then debate is pointless because you are believing and acting on notions that are beyond your control and so are those who happen to take part in it, so there is no real debate as the point of debate is to persuade others to your point of view. And if they can't be persuaded (as they don't have the ability to evaluate the points brought up and choose to view it another way) then there's no real point in trying. It all becomes pointless because the issue and the response is already decided EVEN BEFORE IT BEGINS. Even pinball has less futility than that.
Anyway, that's what went through my mind when I posted that.
And btw, 2 robots/programs (without free will) in debate (and if we humans have zero free will then our debates are just as pointless):
Anyway, that's what went through my mind when I posted that.
And btw, 2 robots/programs (without free will) in debate (and if we humans have zero free will then our debates are just as pointless):
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