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War with Iran, will the UK help
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pellaz Wrote:The Bush government was all about government by fear
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Look at how much the us spends for its military in relation to the threat; linky. Who are we kidding, the government is totally paranoid. For sure you guys have seen the above link; the US spends 10x as much as China, the next viable threat.


You are in reference to the two bush wars
-the first war was a Bush family thingy. There was no weapons of mass destruction. Get over it, the government lied. We attacked the wrong country and did a hack job while we were there. Another administration has to clean up the mess.
-The Afghanistan war is not winnable. The Russians tried years back 1980's. Reference linky. I would suspect if they could not secure a win (they had a vested interest and were several thousand miles like next door) we will never be able to do much short of spending lots of tax money. We should have captured Osama Bin Laden and been done with all the junk.
NOKiss3

Wow, Pellaz, you are putting words in my mouth. You should look at my post again. I said absolutely nothing about Iraq. For some reason you have joined three different wars in your mind which is a rather half-hazard way of looking at several rather complicated issues.

Not to mention the fact that the first war in Iraq was not about "weapons of mass destruction", it was about the invasion of Kuwait and, at that time, Iraq had scud missiles (a.k.a weapons of mass destruction).

As for the second Iraq war, I was opposed to it before it began and my opposition to it has only proven to be correct since that time.

As for saying that the war in Afghanistan is not winnable, I am rather skeptical about that notion. It is absolutely winnable, it is just a matter of how much the United States is willing to sacrifice. For one, the reason why the Russians failed in the 1980's was because of American support of the Mujahaideen at the time.

Also, "we should have captured Osama Bin Laden and been done with it". So, there were no people that could have possibly taken Bin Laden's place if we did that, there were no second and third tier commanders in Al Qaeda being supported by the Taliban? They didn't have training bases or cell groups any place? That is like saying, "oh, we could have just assassinated Hitler when the Nazis invaded Poland and been done with it. The entire German military would have thrown its hands up and surrendered and never bothered anyone ever again". I am afraid that I find that idea a bit ludicrous.
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War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-13-2011, 10:42 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 12-13-2011, 11:18 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by zeon - 12-13-2011, 11:29 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 12-13-2011, 11:46 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by mrk2010 - 12-13-2011, 11:48 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by East - 12-13-2011, 11:48 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-13-2011, 11:49 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by jbd555 - 12-13-2011, 11:50 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-14-2011, 12:08 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 12:32 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-14-2011, 12:46 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fenris - 12-14-2011, 12:54 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 01:07 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by interesting - 12-14-2011, 01:32 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 04:30 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 05:00 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by dfiant - 12-14-2011, 07:35 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 12-14-2011, 07:52 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Almac - 12-14-2011, 11:52 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 12-14-2011, 12:38 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-14-2011, 04:29 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Genersis - 12-14-2011, 04:45 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 06:24 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Almac - 12-14-2011, 06:27 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 07:55 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-14-2011, 09:55 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 03:43 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 12-15-2011, 05:12 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 07:02 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by dfiant - 12-15-2011, 07:37 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 09:05 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Pix - 12-15-2011, 11:17 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Bowyn Aerrow - 12-15-2011, 03:11 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 09:37 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-15-2011, 09:54 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Pix - 12-15-2011, 11:16 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by HollandofFrance - 12-17-2011, 05:38 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by East - 12-17-2011, 06:32 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by DOMITIAN - 12-17-2011, 07:36 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-17-2011, 09:02 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 12-18-2011, 12:55 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-18-2011, 04:18 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by pellaz - 12-18-2011, 04:24 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-18-2011, 04:31 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 12-18-2011, 04:38 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by HollandofFrance - 12-18-2011, 06:16 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by HollandofFrance - 12-18-2011, 06:25 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by procrasty - 01-03-2012, 12:22 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Almac - 01-03-2012, 12:27 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Bowyn Aerrow - 01-03-2012, 01:23 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Uke - 01-03-2012, 03:58 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by KJ1989 - 01-03-2012, 06:09 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by OrphanPip - 01-03-2012, 06:15 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 01-03-2012, 06:54 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Sil - 01-03-2012, 07:12 PM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fredv3b - 01-04-2012, 09:04 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Inchante - 01-04-2012, 10:32 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by Genersis - 01-04-2012, 10:39 AM
War with Iran, will the UK help - by fenris - 01-04-2012, 01:05 PM

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