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Remembering things from before I was born
#1
I Remember going on holiday with my two older brothers mum and dad when I wasn't even born. I told mum this and described what I remembered and she told me that I wasn't born yet and was still in her tummy.

Anyone else had weird experiences like this
Maybe not?
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#2
I've had a couple of experiences that could be described as 'déjà vu' but I'm not a very spiritual person and I don't pay much attention to those types of events.

I have an aunt that swears she can see auras. She says everyone can see them but most people are probably not focused enough or too materialistic. (I have so many professional problems, the last thing on my mind right now is other people's auras or déjà vu).
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#3
It's nice to think it possible.
Unfortunately, it's not.

False memories aren't exactly an unheard of phenomenon.
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#4
Fetal brains are pretty useless in the memory and recall area. A new born is pretty much not a real human being due to the fact its brain is not fully developed. 'Fully developed' brains don't happen until age 3. And then that is a misnomer because the brain is always developing, learning, changing throughout a lifetime.

The connections needed to file and store memory files and the software required to retrieve that data doesn't get set into a human brain until at the least 6 months after birth.

Around the time a baby starts saying its first word is when long term memory retrieval starts setting in strong enough to make it possible to recall that data later in life. However recall of memories is under construction and isn't fully online until age three, with it growing stronger and better at this skill from month 6 to age 3.

Typically 2 years old is the time that real, fully formed long term memories are stored 'permanently' on the storage areas of the brain and are fully accessible/retrievable (recall).

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/first-memo...-1C6436064 may be helpful.

If you are possessed of an eidetic memory in any form it may be possible to retrieve data from as far back as 6 months, or whenever your brain made those connections necessary for your brain to store data and retrieve it.

Not all parts of memory and recall develop at the same time. There is physical memory (which allows us to do repetitive tasks, walk, run, ride a bike) which starts setting in around the time baby can roll over, but isn't formed fully enough until baby starts walking.

Then there are emotions memories, which allow us to recall how we felt. "Logical" memories which allow us to store and retrieve learned data (math, reading, writing, history). And there is also personal experience memories.

Understand most people rarely forget stuff. Memories are 'stored' in the brain and remain in the brain until the brain is damaged or injured. The problem with 'forgetting' is not a loss of memories, but an inability to retrieve that data. People with Eidetic Memories usually have a finer tuned, sharper recall ability. They store data and have a better retrieval system.

Amnesia victims still have their memories, they just are unable to access, retrive and open files. Its sort of like having a hard drive with a corrupt mother board - all the data is still on the hard drive, just that the paging/retrieval software or hardware is corrupt, missing or damaged.

I think what may really be happening is that your folks or family have talked about this holiday around you and you are recalling their recall of memories of this holiday which your brain stored in a way to make it a personal memory.
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#5
hmm, I am not doubting your words, Bowyn, I am adding more questions...

What about those people who wake up from a coma and speak different language? Or that something that gives me a bit creeps and that is called regressive hypnosis? Or the feeling that you already was at the certain place, but there is an evidence, that you didn't?
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#6
Bowyn Aerrow Wrote:Understand most people rarely forget stuff. Memories are 'stored' in the brain and remain in the brain until the brain is damaged or injured. The problem with 'forgetting' is not a loss of memories, but an inability to retrieve that data.

As I understand it, neurologists are coming to agreement that memories are not so much stored and retrieved (the way we think of computer memory), but actually recreated each time we remember them. That provides an opportunity for altering memories, and even creating false memories of events that never happened. False memories can seem every bit as real as true memories, so especially early childhood memories can be considered somewhat suspect.

As an example: my children both remember a traumatic experience from when they were very young, watching their first pet run over by a car. They were sitting side-by-side and remember the event very differently, with conflicting details.

Quote:Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
― Steven Wright, comedian
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#7
Yeah I was trying to keep it simple. Memory is a complex thing.

The brain is a complex device which defies logic at every turn.
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#8
Nick9 Wrote:What about those people who wake up from a coma and speak different language? Or that something that gives me a bit creeps and that is called regressive hypnosis? Or the feeling that you already was at the certain place, but there is an evidence, that you didn't?

The brain certainly is mysterious with people very rarely showing a different accent, able to play the piano, and even having one's sexual orientation changed through head trauma.

And one of the weirdest stories I heard of (from the guy it happened, and yes I trust him) is that once as a child he went into a mall on it's grand opening, the first day it was EVER open, and he KNEW where everything was as if he'd been there a thousand times, was freaking people out with saying what would be behind the next corner, what was upstairs, etc, and it wasn't vague, it was perfect detail as if memory.

But the oddest I've read of was in a book about experiments supposedly going on behind the Iron Curtain (I recall trusting it because the tone wasn't sensationalistic or anything like that, and it was often surprising like what I'm about to share) was where the Soviets did an experiment to try to get people to remember being Napoleon in a past life...and they all did, but the weird part is that they had the same memories as each other and spoke French as Napoleon would've! And they couldn't have all been him...that made me think that maybe there's a collective consciousness in which all humans upload memories to (perhaps at death, perhaps every second) that can be accessed by anyone under the right circumstances, which could explain that weird experiment, or possibly something from before you were born...

Though to explain how my friend knew all the details of a mall that had never been shopped in before then it either doesn't apply to that sitch or one can potentially access memories that have yet to be uploaded (and he himself went to that mall a lot for years after...)
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#9
That's interesting, Pix. Thanks. It's disturbing though that we maybe should not trust our memory at all Smile
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