We are gay couple from Kazakhstan, looking for help for VISA registration. Work, learn, travel and any other kind of visa types.
After acceptence the new law about Homosexual propoganda in Russia, Kazakhstan parlament begins consideration about accepting same law. We are fear about our lifes and health. We will consider any job offers, invitations, etc.
Please, help us!
We can't even blame the Russian people for electing Putin because by all accounts, he rigged the elections. Jeeez, at least Hitler was properly elected!
I apologise in advance for this long post and hope it doesn't become a Wall Of Words.
Things are not going to get better by fleeing. You need to come together, organise and fight back! Sure, heads will be broken, people will even be killed but when did running away from a bully ever achieve anything?
The UK hasn't always been the paragon of democratic virtue that it became. 200 years ago only adult men who owned property valued at 40 Shillings (About £100 in modern money) were allowed to vote in parliamentary elections. In 1819 just after the Napoleonic wars here in the North West of England the adult population was around 1 Million, yet only 154 of those people were allowed to vote.
A generally accepted figure of 60,000 people - about half the population of Manchester or 6% of the population of Lancashire came together to protest these circumstances in a square in Manchester - St Peter's Field. Such assemblies were illegal in 1819 and the Government ordered troops to break up the meeting, which they did with a Sabre charge by mounted troops. Of the 654 recorded casualties, at least 168 were women. 11 - 15 people were killed, mostly by being struck with swords and or being crushed by the cavalry horses.
This massacre became known as the Peterloo Riots (16 August 1819) but it had no effect on the speed of reform, but in due course all but one of the reformers' demands, annual parliaments, were met. Following the Great Reform Act of 1832, the newly created Manchester parliamentary borough elected its first two MPs. Manchester became a Municipal Borough in 1837, and what remained of the manorial rights were subsequently purchased by the borough council.
Until 1918 only men of 21 years old or over were allowed to vote in UK election. This changed the same year to allow woman of the age of 30 or over who met minimum property qualifications to vote and to enter parliament as M.P's. It wasn't until 1928 that woman were placed on an equal footing with men and allowed to vote at the age of 21.
Here in the UK Gay Law Reform has taken centuries to get to where we are now.
1828The Buggery Act 1533 was repealed and replaced by the Offences against the Person Act 1828. Buggery remained punishable by death.
1861 The death penalty for buggery was abolished. A total of 8921 men had been prosecuted since 1806 for sodomy with 404 sentenced to death and 56 executed
1885 Parliament enacted section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, known as the Labouchere Amendment which prohibited gross indecency between males. It thus became possible to prosecute homosexuals for engaging is sexual acts where buggery or attempted buggery could not be proven
1895 Oscar Wilde tried for gross indecency over a relationship with Lord Alfred Douglas, was sentenced to two years in prison with hard labour.
1912 London's first gay pub (as we now know the term), Madame Strindgberg's The Cave of the Golden Calf opened in Heddon Street, off Regent Street.
1921 The Criminal Law Amendment Act was amended in the House of Commons to include a section to make sexual "acts of gross indecency" between women illegal, and was passed in the House of Commons. However the section was defeated in the House Of Lords and thus never became law.
1936 A 30-year-old British athletic champion, Mark Weston of Plymouth, transitioned from female to male. The story appeared in some national newspapers, including the News of the World (31 May 1936). The reportage was accurate and sensitive. In the words of Mr L.R.Broster, the Harley Street surgeon who treated him, 'Mark Weston, who has always been brought up as a female, is a male and should continue to live as such".
1950 On 31 July in Rotherham, an English schoolteacher, Kenneth Crowe, aged 37, was found dead wearing his wife's clothes and a wig. He had approached a minor on his way home from the pub, who upon discovering Crowe was male, beat and strangled him.[45] John Cooney was found not guilty of murder and sentenced to five years for manslaughter.[46] In response to the violence and unfair treatment of gay men, the Sexual Offences Act 1967 was passed seventeen years later.
1954 Alan Turing, an English mathematician, logician, cryptanalyst and computer scientist influential in the development of computer science committed suicide. He had been given a course of female hormones (chemical castration) by doctors as an alternative to prison after being prosecuted by the police because of his homosexuality. Home Secretary Sir David Maxwell Fyfe agreed to appoint a committee to examine and report on the law covering homosexual offences (this would become known as The Wolfenden report).
1957 The Report of the Departmental Committee on Homosexual Offences and Prostitution (better known as the Wolfenden report, after Lord Wolfenden) was published. It advised the British Government that homosexuality should not be illegal.
1967 Ten years after the Wolfenden Report, MP Leo Abse introduced the Sexual Offences Bill 1967 supported by Labour MP Roy Jenkins, then the Labour Home Secretary. When passed, The Sexual Offences Act decriminalised homosexual acts between two men over 21 years of age in private in England and Wales. The 1967 Act did not extend to Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man, where all homosexual behaviour remained illegal. The privacy restrictions of the act meant a third person could not be present and men could not have sex in a hotel. These restrictions were overturned in the European Court of Human Rights in 2000.
1972 The First British Gay Pride Rally was held in London with 1000 people marching from Trafalgar Square to Hyde Park. Gay News, Britain's first gay newspaper was founded.
1979 At the end of the decade trans-people still had no identity rights nor legal protection.
1980 The Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 1980 decriminalised homosexual acts between two men over 21 years of age "in private" in Scotland.
1981 The European Court of Human Rights in Dudgeon v. United Kingdom struck down Northern Ireland's criminalisation of homosexual acts between consenting adults.
1988 Section 28 of the Local Government Act 1988 enacted as an amendment to the United Kingdom's Local Government Act 1986, on 24 May 1988 stated that a local authority "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship". The act was introduced by Margaret Thatcher. Almost identical legislation was enacted for Scotland by the Westminster Parliament.
1992 UK Crown Dependency of Isle of Man repealed sodomy laws (homosexuality was still illegal until 1994).
1994 The Conservative Member of Parliament Edwina Currie introduced an amendment to lower the age of consent for homosexual acts, from 21 to 16 in line with that for heterosexual acts. The vote was defeated and the gay male age of consent is set at 18.
2000 The Labour government scraps the policy of barring homosexuals from the armed forces.] The Labour government introduces legislation to repeal Section 28 in England and Wales - Conservative MPs oppose the move. The bill is defeated by bishops and Conservatives in the House of Lords.
2001 The last two pieces of unequal law regarding gay male sex are changed. In 1997 the European Commission of Human Rights found that the European Convention on Human Rights were violated by a discriminatory age of consent; the government submitted that it would propose a Bill to Parliament for a reduction of the age of consent for homosexual acts from 18 to 16. The Crime and Disorder Bill which proposed these amendments, was voted for in the House of Commons but rejected in the House of Lords. In 1998 it was reintroduced and again was voted for in the House of Commons but rejected in the House of Lords. It was reintroduced a third time in 1999 but the House of Lords amended it to maintain the age for buggery at 18 for both sexes. Provisions made in the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949 made it possible to enact the bill without the Lords voting it through. The provisions of the Act came into force throughout the United Kingdom on 8 January 2001, lowering the age of consent to 16. Under the act consensual group sex for gay men is also decriminalised.
2002 Same-sex couples are granted equal rights to adopt.
2003 Section 28, which banned councils and schools from intentionally promoting homosexuality, is repealed in England and Wales and Northern Ireland. Employment Equality Regulations made it illegal to discriminate against lesbians, gays or bisexuals at work.
2005 The first civil partnership formed under the Civil Partnership Act 2004.
2006 The Equality Act 2006 which establishes the Equality and Human Rights Commission (CEHR) and makes discrimination against lesbians and gay men in the provision of goods and services illegal, gains Royal Assent on 16 February. The age of consent is equalized and Section 28 "successfully repealed" in the UK Crown Dependency of the Isle of Man.
2009 The Labour Government Prime Minister Gordon Brown makes an official public apology on behalf of the British government for the way in which Alan Turing was chemically castrated for being gay, after the war. Opposition leader David Cameron apologises on behalf of the Conservative Party, for introducing Section 28 during Margaret Thatcher's third government.
2011 Civil partners Martyn Hall and Steven Preddy were successful in their case against B&B owners Peter and Hazelmary Bull. Hall and Preddy were refused a double room at the B&B [Small hotel offering accommodation and a morning meal] on the basis of their sexual orientation, although this was illegal under the 2007 Equality Act Regulations.
2013 The coalition government unveils its Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill on 25 January. On 21 May it passes its third reading in the House of Commons by a vote of 366 to 161. On 17 July 2013, Royal Assent was given to the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act 2013 allowing the first same-sex marriages to be performed in the summer of 2014.
Change may take a long time and come only with a long hard struggle. We in the rest of the world WILL do what we can. We can write to the Russian Embassy in protest, demonstrate, boycott Russian goods and services and write to companies such as Aeroflot to tell them that we shall n o longer be using their services whilst Russian LGBT people are being persecuted by their government. Perhaps a demonstration near an Aeroflot desk at an Airport.
Vigilias Wrote:It must be tough right now, living where you do.
We can't even blame the Russian people for electing Putin because by all accounts, he rigged the elections. Jeeez, at least Hitler was properly elected!
I apologise in advance for this long post and hope it doesn't become a Wall Of Words.
Things are not going to get better by fleeing. You need to come together, organise and fight back! Sure, heads will be broken, people will even be killed but when did running away from a bully ever achieve anything?
The UK hasn't always been the paragon of democratic virtue that it became. 200 years ago only adult men who owned property valued at 40 Shillings (About £100 in modern money) were allowed to vote in parliamentary elections. In 1819 just after the Napoleonic wars here in the North West of England the adult population was around 1 Million, yet only 154 of those people were allowed to vote.
A generally accepted figure of 60,000 people - about half the population of Manchester or 6% of the population of Lancashire came together to protest these circumstances in a square in Manchester - St Peter's Field. Such assemblies were illegal in 1819 and the Government ordered troops to break up the meeting, which they did with a Sabre charge by mounted troops. Of the 654 recorded casualties, at least 168 were women. 11 - 15 people were killed, mostly by being struck with swords and or being crushed by the cavalry horses.
This massacre became known as the Peterloo Riots (16 August 1819) but it had no effect on the speed of reform, but in due course all but one of the reformers' demands, annual parliaments, were met. Following the Great Reform Act of 1832, the newly created Manchester parliamentary borough elected its first two MPs. Manchester became a Municipal Borough in 1837, and what remained of the manorial rights were subsequently purchased by the borough council.
Until 1918 only men of 21 years old or over were allowed to vote in UK election. This changed the same year to allow woman of the age of 30 or over who met minimum property qualifications to vote and to enter parliament as M.P's. It wasn't until 1928 that woman were placed on an equal footing with men and allowed to vote at the age of 21.
Here in the UK Gay Law Reform has taken centuries to get to where we are now.
1828The Buggery Act 1533 was repealed and replaced by the Offences against the Person Act 1828. Buggery remained punishable by death.
1861 The death penalty for buggery was abolished. A total of 8921 men had been prosecuted since 1806 for sodomy with 404 sentenced to death and 56 executed
1885 Parliament enacted section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, known as the Labouchere Amendment which prohibited gross indecency between males. It thus became possible to prosecute homosexuals for engaging is sexual acts where buggery or attempted buggery could not be proven
1895 Oscar Wilde tried for gross indecency over a relationship with Lord Alfred Douglas, was sentenced to two years in prison with hard labour.
1912 London's first gay pub (as we now know the term), Madame Strindgberg's The Cave of the Golden Calf opened in Heddon Street, off Regent Street.
1921 The Criminal Law Amendment Act was amended in the House of Commons to include a section to make sexual "acts of gross indecency" between women illegal, and was passed in the House of Commons. However the section was defeated in the House Of Lords and thus never became law.
1936 A 30-year-old British athletic champion, Mark Weston of Plymouth, transitioned from female to male. The story appeared in some national newspapers, including the News of the World (31 May 1936). The reportage was accurate and sensitive. In the words of Mr L.R.Broster, the Harley Street surgeon who treated him, 'Mark Weston, who has always been brought up as a female, is a male and should continue to live as such".
1950 On 31 July in Rotherham, an English schoolteacher, Kenneth Crowe, aged 37, was found dead wearing his wife's clothes and a wig. He had approached a minor on his way home from the pub, who upon discovering Crowe was male, beat and strangled him.[45] John Cooney was found not guilty of murder and sentenced to five years for manslaughter.[46] In response to the violence and unfair treatment of gay men, the Sexual Offences Act 1967 was passed seventeen years later.
1954 Alan Turing, an English mathematician, logician, cryptanalyst and computer scientist influential in the development of computer science committed suicide. He had been given a course of female hormones (chemical castration) by doctors as an alternative to prison after being prosecuted by the police because of his homosexuality. Home Secretary Sir David Maxwell Fyfe agreed to appoint a committee to examine and report on the law covering homosexual offences (this would become known as The Wolfenden report).
1957 The Report of the Departmental Committee on Homosexual Offences and Prostitution (better known as the Wolfenden report, after Lord Wolfenden) was published. It advised the British Government that homosexuality should not be illegal.
1967 Ten years after the Wolfenden Report, MP Leo Abse introduced the Sexual Offences Bill 1967 supported by Labour MP Roy Jenkins, then the Labour Home Secretary. When passed, The Sexual Offences Act decriminalised homosexual acts between two men over 21 years of age in private in England and Wales. The 1967 Act did not extend to Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man, where all homosexual behaviour remained illegal. The privacy restrictions of the act meant a third person could not be present and men could not have sex in a hotel. These restrictions were overturned in the European Court of Human Rights in 2000.
1972 The First British Gay Pride Rally was held in London with 1000 people marching from Trafalgar Square to Hyde Park. Gay News, Britain's first gay newspaper was founded.
1979 At the end of the decade trans-people still had no identity rights nor legal protection.
1980 The Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 1980 decriminalised homosexual acts between two men over 21 years of age "in private" in Scotland.
1981 The European Court of Human Rights in Dudgeon v. United Kingdom struck down Northern Ireland's criminalisation of homosexual acts between consenting adults.
1988 Section 28 of the Local Government Act 1988 enacted as an amendment to the United Kingdom's Local Government Act 1986, on 24 May 1988 stated that a local authority "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship". The act was introduced by Margaret Thatcher. Almost identical legislation was enacted for Scotland by the Westminster Parliament.
1992 UK Crown Dependency of Isle of Man repealed sodomy laws (homosexuality was still illegal until 1994).
1994 The Conservative Member of Parliament Edwina Currie introduced an amendment to lower the age of consent for homosexual acts, from 21 to 16 in line with that for heterosexual acts. The vote was defeated and the gay male age of consent is set at 18.
2000 The Labour government scraps the policy of barring homosexuals from the armed forces.] The Labour government introduces legislation to repeal Section 28 in England and Wales - Conservative MPs oppose the move. The bill is defeated by bishops and Conservatives in the House of Lords.
2001 The last two pieces of unequal law regarding gay male sex are changed. In 1997 the European Commission of Human Rights found that the European Convention on Human Rights were violated by a discriminatory age of consent; the government submitted that it would propose a Bill to Parliament for a reduction of the age of consent for homosexual acts from 18 to 16. The Crime and Disorder Bill which proposed these amendments, was voted for in the House of Commons but rejected in the House of Lords. In 1998 it was reintroduced and again was voted for in the House of Commons but rejected in the House of Lords. It was reintroduced a third time in 1999 but the House of Lords amended it to maintain the age for buggery at 18 for both sexes. Provisions made in the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949 made it possible to enact the bill without the Lords voting it through. The provisions of the Act came into force throughout the United Kingdom on 8 January 2001, lowering the age of consent to 16. Under the act consensual group sex for gay men is also decriminalised.
2002 Same-sex couples are granted equal rights to adopt.
2003 Section 28, which banned councils and schools from intentionally promoting homosexuality, is repealed in England and Wales and Northern Ireland. Employment Equality Regulations made it illegal to discriminate against lesbians, gays or bisexuals at work.
2005 The first civil partnership formed under the Civil Partnership Act 2004.
2006 The Equality Act 2006 which establishes the Equality and Human Rights Commission (CEHR) and makes discrimination against lesbians and gay men in the provision of goods and services illegal, gains Royal Assent on 16 February. The age of consent is equalized and Section 28 "successfully repealed" in the UK Crown Dependency of the Isle of Man.
2009 The Labour Government Prime Minister Gordon Brown makes an official public apology on behalf of the British government for the way in which Alan Turing was chemically castrated for being gay, after the war. Opposition leader David Cameron apologises on behalf of the Conservative Party, for introducing Section 28 during Margaret Thatcher's third government.
2011 Civil partners Martyn Hall and Steven Preddy were successful in their case against B&B owners Peter and Hazelmary Bull. Hall and Preddy were refused a double room at the B&B [Small hotel offering accommodation and a morning meal] on the basis of their sexual orientation, although this was illegal under the 2007 Equality Act Regulations.
2013 The coalition government unveils its Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill on 25 January. On 21 May it passes its third reading in the House of Commons by a vote of 366 to 161. On 17 July 2013, Royal Assent was given to the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act 2013 allowing the first same-sex marriages to be performed in the summer of 2014.
Change may take a long time and come only with a long hard struggle. We in the rest of the world WILL do what we can. We can write to the Russian Embassy in protest, demonstrate, boycott Russian goods and services and write to companies such as Aeroflot to tell them that we shall n o longer be using their services whilst Russian LGBT people are being persecuted by their government. Perhaps a demonstration near an Aeroflot desk at an Airport.
Some facts and dates and statistics gleaned from Wikipedia.
Sorry, but have you ever lived in muslim country? And specificly in Kazakhstan with our goverment (Nazarbaev)? No? How you can judge about our try to escape.
I sent you in PM some links, because can not post their here yet.
I got the links thanks but the sites are all written in Cyrillic and I don't speak Russian.
No, I've never lived in a Muslim country and I think your story and what's happening in your region is one damn good reason why we should never allow Sharia law to become part of our own law in the UK as some Muslims would like to see.
I also happen to think that extremist islam is the greatest threat to democracy since the Nazis!
Forums like this cannot help you. You can post your plea's, but it doesnt do any good for you.
You have to contact human rights organizations to get any information on your problems or concerns.
As previously stated, you should look at getting Visa's for a European country closer to where you are, that does not oppress gays. Contact that countries human rights organizations for advice and help, and see if they have any gay rights organizations you can contact there also, for advice and help.
Posting your information on these forums will not help your cause.
Gay couple from Kazakstan looking for help!
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