germany wants out

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[southbiochem]

Well....wasn't Deutschland always the "bad boy" of Europe back in the late XIX early XX century?...of course they couldn't afford to be after 1945...

I understand for example the reticence that economically powerful Germany has towards "sustaining" failing economies like Greece in the past couple of years...

But the Franco-German reconciliation back in the 60s was the ultimate best thing that happened to Europe until the collapse of communism..I would hate that this role model of cooperation and integration that Germans and French started falls appart...

I sincerely hope that German Chancellors find a middle ground here...in Hungary there already are right wing extreme groups starting to worship Miklós Horthy...God forbids they start to reappear in Germany too and go saying how cool it was in Hitler's days..

This separatist tendencies can damn well lead to that..and we certainly don't want badly behaved Germany back..

[tavi]

Germany is one of the most prosperous nations in Europe, they're just so good at making things, toys, cars, V rockets!

If they leave we,ll probably suffer economically, then they shall strike, operation sealion II

(Southbio you always put funny ideas in my head :p oh no they were there already)

Seriously though I hope they stay.

[southbiochem]

Germany is one of the most prosperous nations in Europe, they're just so good at making things, toys, cars, V rockets!

If they leave we,ll probably suffer economically, then they shall strike, operation sealion II

(Southbio you always put funny ideas in my head :p oh no they were there already)

Seriously though I hope they stay.

Ha....well...then I wish Merkel better luck than Philip II of Spain, Napoleon and Hitler had back in the day on their wishes to invade Britain...

besides, you've been always US alligned since 1945...bet it would be a good time to call them in to return the favor no?

Doesn't it make you shiver how powefully strong have Japan's and Germany's economies grown by now..that they've been asking a permanent seat in UN Security Council?....ugh...as long as they remain friendly and integrated like they are now...fine...but the more times passes from 1945, I'm more afraid that the extreme right wing will become cool again...like in Japan this minister that visits the graves of WWII war criminals...in Hungary where people are startin to idolize Horthy...ugh...

dangerous dangerous path...Germany is better off integrated and cooperational...took them a while to rebuilt from 1945, no one wants nor theirs nor any other of those beautiful European cities leveled to the ground again..

[tavi]

There a documentry on bbc2 just starting "the making of merkel with andrew marr"... marr is quite good

[fenris]

No ... Germany don´t want to go out .... What these little Party´s want don´t count....

[MisterLove]

I love Germany, I go there every year and I finished my studies at the wonderful Freie Universität Berlin thanks to a German scholarship from DAAD. It's a fascinating country but very peculiar and complex, as well. Germans suffer from this weird provincialism, a strange inability to relate to other cultures. Many (most?) of them have no idea what austerity really means and how it's destroying peoples' lives in Southern countries.