Spiritual Agnosticism & Animism

[dfiant1]

Why do we feel it necessary to label something that doesn't have to be labelled?

Why do we feel the need to justify something that is an intricate part of who we are?

People go through great lengths to explain to the world what they believe and why they believe only to have the world turn around and judge them or try to debunk them. Yeah you might turn around and say 'Fuck them, I don't care what they say/think', but the real question...why is it so important to to find a label?

[MisterTinkles]

[Joshular]

I like to imagine that when I die I'll be dead.
And in being dead my dead bits get eaten by living things and so I'll be spread on!
Yay for the cycle of life.

Plz note the dwindling wild life and the massive growth of humankind.
EWW
something is outta balance there.

Also I have a similar view as you Odi.

[Sylph]

Why do we feel it necessary to label something that doesn't have to be labelled?

Why do we feel the need to justify something that is an intricate part of who we are?

People go through great lengths to explain to the world what they believe and why they believe only to have the world turn around and judge them or try to debunk them. Yeah you might turn around and say 'Fuck them, I don't care what they say/think', but the real question...why is it so important to to find a label?

Well actually Daddi-kins, I am very much in agreement with you, I don't run around screaming my belief is the best (unlike some belief systems aim towards) or even letting every and any body who is within auditory radius of my voice know.

I just wanted to allow people a view into a lifestyle that is not as prevalent as the "normal" or regular ones.

A Label does not define what something is or isn't, it's a word/system of identification.

Because as I said, not every Spiritual Agnostic practices or believes the same thing/way, but because we are under the same branch, we can associate with one another, while living our own ways. So to put a "Label" on Spiritual Agnosticism would not work, as the meaning or definition of Spiritual Agnosticism is not set and so cannot be labeled in the common sense of the word.

It is a label perhaps, but in the sense that it gives a name to a common belief/system.

If I dress in flowers, skinny jeans, shoals and all that, it doesn't make me Gay. it makes me perhaps more open and free spirited, so I would be called maybe a Flower-Child or something, whereas a Gay person would do the same thing, and yet the are also a Flower-Child, but are not the same, so labeling something as one definitive thing is wrong.

So I agree with you, but in this particular case, I don't think there are any labels.


Side-Note;

We need to all start wearing flowers in our hair and unisex clothing.. this is what we should do -.- . It'll bless all your lives

[Pix]

is this presence still prevalent in your life outside of the visions/experiences with her?

I had pagan experiences for a few years after though nothing that intense. OK, there was one time I was floored by intense past life recall but I came to be agnostic about that as well (I do believe the memories are real but I could've simply accessed them from some "astral memory banks" which I think some call the Akashic Records). I came to realize how intensely subjective our brains can be (and mistake subjective reality for objective reality) and slowly returned to Ignosticism/Agnosticism. And since then...I've had odd esoteric experiences, but they're often more puzzling than anything.

Btw, one example of how puzzling they can be as I figure you might like it: I once had a vivid dream that I left the library on Christmas (so it should've been closed) saw an orange cat I never saw before across the street from the Catholic Church that was all lit up (as it was Christmas), went home (a couple of blocks away) and came back to feed the cat. This was so vivid I tried to interpret it to no avail. And yet I believe it was a few months later it happened almost exactly as I dreamed it: only it wasn't Christmas it was Easter, and I didn't leave the library (which was closed and it was night) but I walked passed it (coming home from the store). But other than that it was exact, even to how the cat looked. But why would I dream this? :confused: It had no effect on me whatsoever, had i not dreamed it then it still would've happened exactly the same way...and there are so many other things I'd have found a heads up about to be much more useful. It's just puzzling.

As for the circumstances involved, I don't think that "detracts" from it, it's just interesting to note and implies that it wasn't "the gods on high looked down on their creations and decided to have some fun" but rather something else was going on, something perhaps more in the realm of telepathy, or more accurate the Force of Star Wars (as the closest concept I can think of offhand).

And in this case prayer actually makes sense because it's a type of magic whereas if an omnipotent and omniscient God knows all and actively takes care of you then what is the point of prayer? I'd think if anything it would be offensive to God (assuming God could take offense, which most of them do assume) as it shows lack of faith in God already knowing what you need and bringing it about.

As for "it's in your head, but is it real," I think the same thing about light & sound. We interpret those by chemical reactions in our brain, too, and just because some people need help to perceive the same thing doesn't mean that therefore all that we see and hear are therefore "nonexistent." It's just what we can perceive (and understand) is limited by biology, but there are ways to expand that (just as there are ways to make the deaf hear, for example).

[Pix]

[Miles]

Back when I was a total Rush junkie that was always one of my favorites of theirs.