Murder or not murder

[stu]

Soldiers don't get a choice in which war they fight or to vote on if they think it's just.

[Vigilias]

According to the protocols of the IV Geneva Convention the dead man had the right to be treated as a Prisoner of War when he was killed, therefore the Royal Marine is guilty of murder.

However, I feel strongly that an enemy who wears no uniform and hides amongst women, children and old men and rely on their civilian status AFTER taking up armed military conflict should be shown no quarter. The convicted Royal Marine should have his sentence immediately reduced to time already served.

Now here's another question; What should be done to terrorists who arm themselves as human bombs and kill themselves and others on underground trains or on buses or indeed hijack planes and fly them in to high rise buildings in one of the worlds most busiest cities?

Kill em all and let Alla sort them out!

[Woollyhats]

Not only murder, but deceit and abusing his position as well. He has already been found guilty of murder by a jury as well. And, if it wasn't murder, he wouldn't have tried to keep the situation under wraps... he knew it was wrong, he did it anyway. Too bad for him that his actions have consequences.

[dfiant1]

For what it may be worth, my own opinion is that it was cold blooded murder.

Not much

My favourite colour is blue.

[Ekwarph]

The soldier did not kill his boss or a colleague he killed one of the enemy - he just broke the rules about when he could do it. He kills people for a living you don't. If you broke the rules at work would you spend the rest of your life in prison?

Most of cases, if I break the rules, I don't put anyone in danger except the company. Here, he killed a person on his purpose although he was not supposed to.

If the bridge I design falls because of a calculation error, I am responsible from some people's death, I have one year of prison, and I didn't kill them on my purpose.

[partis]

Was fire bombing German cities during WWII justifiable? Would it have been justifiable if the war could not be done without doing it?

Are you ok!!!

They sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind.

7 million Germans died in WORLD WAR 2

50 million people died.

[Joshular]

I like what trialbyerror and dfiant said

Bitches knows what's going down.

[Joshular]

Not much

My favourite colour is blue.

OMG ME TO!!!

:p

[trialbyerror]

Hi everybody

Andy has responded to why my post in Murder or not was deleted Thank you Andy

Herewith his response
Your post has been 'Reported' by other members with >1000 posts. The site is pretty much self moderating where members can report posts causing them to be placed in the moderation queue. More than one member (not only the OP) say they found your post offensive. You came across as racist and anti-British in your aggressive stance.

(Other than Londoner, whom I will address directly), to all of you who took offence because of racism, anti British sentiments, or an aggressive stance, my sincerest apologies.

The post was never so intended.

I am neither racist nor anti-British in any way.

But, as I have been judged and sanctioned publicly to be so, by way of having the post removed, I believe I have humane right to defend my-actions.

Racist
The Statements I made where not opinion, they are facts.
During the second Anglo-Boer war, Africkaans children where shot on site, woman and children were herded into concentration camps, where they died under terrible conditions.

These concentration camps where run by the British, who allowed these conditions to continue, and took no action to stop them. This is not racist, it is fact.

I myself have pilgrimaged to a number of these sites and seen my family name engraved on memorials; I have seen this with my own eyes. This is fact not racist.

Had I said that the Germans did much the same to the Jews during WW II would that be a racist remark? No it is fact.

The fact is though, The Germans have deeply apologised for what happened, In fact to deny the holocaust in Germany is a punishable offence

My forefather’s created the Aparheid system. That was racist because it discriminated based on the colour of a persons skin (amongst other more weird things)

We have apologised. The truth and re-conciliation committee & trials saw to that

Yet have we received an apology from the British? No. That is not racist, that is fact.

Why then bring this up?
The OP (Londoner) had the temerity to set himself up as judge and jury in a moral case regarding a particular incident, regarding a particular soldier.

I find this deeply offensive for a number of reasons.

I simply used the British / Africkaans issue as an example (be it an extreme example) to explain to Londoner why he has no moral right to pass judgement on anybody. (Judge not lest ye be judged, I think the King James edition says)

I state publicly: -
There is nobody that is superior to anybody else, and nobody has the right to assume they are.

Not because of Intellect / resources / age / gender / race / colour / creed / heritage / status or any other excuse I may not have made reference to.


Londoner – me
(Opinion) I believe that in his own mind Londoner is of the opinion that he is superior to everybody else (and those on this forum) and therefore has the right to act in a particular, way.

Why? Three reasons

1) Londoner has, in the past, deemed it his given right to tell me what I may or may not do, in an officious and overbearing manner. This first transgression I allowed to slide. But he continues to do exactly the same thing to other’s (on a number of occasions).

2) He is continually rude, officious and aggressive to younger members of this forum.

3) Then he has the temerity to set himself up as Judge in the post “Murder or not”

What gives him the right to present himself, as superior and that he is therefore acceptable for him to tell others what they may or may not do, be crass and off handed to younger members, and summarily pass judgement

I am not passing judgment on Londoner, I am responding to his offensiveness

I reiterate
There is nobody that is superior to anybody else.
Nobody has the right to assume they are. Not because of Intellect / resources / age / gender / race / colour / creed or heritage or any other excuse I may not have made reference to.

Unlike Londoner, I have the “nuts” to bring him to task and do it publicly, and not to run to daddy (Andy) and expect him to stand in front.

To anybody and everybody on this forum,
My post was directed solely at Londoner, and his sanctimonious attitude.

Again, if anyone else took offence, please accept my humblest and sincerest apologies. It was not intended to do so. Furthermore in the future, if anybody has a problem with what I post, I invite you to please feel free to call me out directly. Either PM or openly. If I am in the wrong an apology you will get.

I will not hold open debate against anybody.

I trust that Londoner will take what has been said and use it to grow as a human being so that he can become a better person.

I will post this post on 2 different Threads, in order to bring closure to this matter

I consider the matter closed

[dfiant1]

You won me over at 'Sanctamonious Prick'

I admire anyone that can use the word PRICK in a sentence and remain composed and you are a legend in my book