Euthanasia

[Woolfe]

:tongue: That's me, yarr. XD

[sweetlad86]

I'm scared of my answer, as I mite get really ill one day and I may have to make that decision for my self!

[Woolfe]

Well, put yourself in that position and decide whether or not you'd prefer to have the choice in what happens?

Ky xx

[sweetlad86]

Well, put yourself in that position and decide whether or not you'd prefer to have the choice in what happens?

Ky xx

I mite though, and I'm not sure.

Some people cant live with them selfs because they need help for every part of their lives, and the people you love are in so much pain in seeing you in that state and ever on round you pity you and feel sorry for you all the time.

Or what if you are living with so much pain you cant sleep think or even eat, and all you want is to end the pain..

Would you put out a person who has been blown apart, with all their guts hanging out, begging for help, but all you can do is to put them out of their misery.

It all depends on the situation really!

[Woolfe]

Those all being arguments for euthanasia, yet you still seem unsure?

Ky xx

[Australia]

Would you still feel that way if you had terminal cancer and were refused treatment that would have allowed you several more years to live?

Of course this topic is a very complex one as there are lots of different ways of dying. It would all depend on what the patient had. If they can LIVE for another few years then of course you would offer them treatment. What I'm talking about is dying. A friend of ours had motor neuron disease. Took about 6 months to die and it was the most horrendous thing I have ever seen . That in my opinion was a 6 month long death, not 6 months of extra life. I'm not that good with words so I'm finding this hard to explain.

I'm with Ralwatt on that one Australia, a person has as much of a right to live as to die.

If they aren't ready to die, whether it be a 20-year-old cancer patient or an 80-year-old with multiple terminal illnesses, unless the person chooses to end their life, than it's de facto murder to deny them even life-prolonging treatment.

There's a difference between having a right to die and being deprived of the right to have your life prolonged.

I understand it's entirely your views, but I'm wondering whether you'd feel the same if, as Ralwatt said, you were to be in the position of someone with only life-prolonging options left.

Ky xx

Yeah I would still have these views if I was in that position. When my mother was dying of cancer, she lived with us while she was still somewhat healthy and able. In the last few weeks, she said goodbye to us kids and went somewhere with dad. We never saw her again. Maybe because she did that for me it I'd want to do the same for my kids. She didnt have the option of Ethuanasia but if it was availible I'm sure she would have taken it. I just dont think its worth prolonging the DEATH for a short period of time. For example. whats the difference in living to the age of 66 or 66 and a 1/2? if that 1/2 is a long painful experience for all people involved?

Of course if you can live on for years with limited pain thats a completely different story.

[zeon]

Hi All,
On this subject i beleive that if a person is in pain for example suffering with MS and it is getting worse and they wish to die to end it all quickly then they should have the right to it.. I think however that religion holds it against us and makes it illegal to do in united kingdom because of the fact you die through suicide your condemned to hell...
I know that if my animal is in pain i would have him/her put to sleep yet again if i was riddled with an in-curable cancer id wish to be put to sleep.. Mind you if i found out my dog was riddled with cancer and he or she was bouncing around happily and living life to the full then id not have my dog put to sleep.. People tend to think also that because an animal looses a leg it should be placed in sleep mode for eternity as well.. I watched a video on youtube about this dog that lost both front legs and is walking up right with the back ones... It gave me inspiration to this and that in life if an animal has a defect it will adapt easily as well.. We have to with no troubles... To end this box one final note if someone wishes to die then their wish should be granted

Kindest regards

zeon x

[Ralwatt]

Of course this topic is a very complex one as there are lots of different ways of dying. It would all depend on what the patient had. If they can LIVE for another few years then of course you would offer them treatment. What I'm talking about is dying. A friend of ours had motor neuron disease. Took about 6 months to die and it was the most horrendous thing I have ever seen . That in my opinion was a 6 month long death, not 6 months of extra life. I'm not that good with words so I'm finding this hard to explain.


Yeah I would still have these views if I was in that position. When my mother was dying of cancer, she lived with us while she was still somewhat healthy and able. In the last few weeks, she said goodbye to us kids and went somewhere with dad. We never saw her again. Maybe because she did that for me it I'd want to do the same for my kids. She didnt have the option of Ethuanasia but if it was availible I'm sure she would have taken it. I just dont think its worth prolonging the DEATH for a short period of time. For example. whats the difference in living to the age of 66 or 66 and a 1/2? if that 1/2 is a long painful experience for all people involved?

Of course if you can live on for years with limited pain thats a completely different story.

It seems to me that it's not mandatory euthanasia you want, just the option for those who would prefer to end their lives that way.

Edit: Sorry for not replying sooner, I've had a busy few days.

[Australia]

It seems to me that it's not mandatory euthanasia you want, just the option for those who would prefer to end their lives that way.

Edit: Sorry for not replying sooner, I've had a busy few days.

I forgot about this thread. You probably have no interest in it anymore but I'll reply anyway. Euthanasia as I know it is ending a life without pain. I believe that depending on the circumstances, this should be mandatory. If a person is dying, as in they wont ever leave the bed they are lying in again, then they should not be offered medication that does not cure the person, but merely prolongs that death. They should be offered all the relief from pain that is available, and the option to end their life painlessly. I do not think it's right for a person to be kept alive artificially in a hospital bed who has no chance of ever leaving it.

[ardus]

Don't know if anyone reads this thread anymore or not but hey, I've been gone for a while so I have an excuse

This is a very divisive issue for a lot fo people.

My solution to the devisivness is to say how I feel and then explain why.

I think, that people have a right not to end their lives in unimagineable pain and suffering. Regardless of how the loss of someone makes those of us who are left behind feel, there are some illnesses that are just so terrible and so painful that those who have them should not be forced to suffer through them.

THat's what I think, here's why

I watched my dad die of bone marrow cancer. It was extremely painful, and slow and debilitating. First he went through the initial syptoms, the fatigue, the inability to move, the pain. Then the diagnosis, which after his colon cancer was not a huge surprise but still painful. Then the treatment, which in his case was much worse than the disease. He went through chemotherapy, which he did on wednesdays. He went in for therapy on wednesdays, and thursdays, and fridays, and saturdays, and sundays he was in bed, he could kind of move around on mondays and tuesdays, but not much, and then wednesday comes around and he's back to bed. After a while the chemo stops working
Once the chemo stopped working he was confined to his bed and in terrible pain. I used to to the pharmacy to get his medicine and they would question who I was getting it for because the dosage of morphine he was on to just barely quell his pain was so strong it would kill someone who was not sick.
I was holding his hand when he died and his face went from a twisted pain expression to an expression of peace. Anyone who tells me you can just tough out suffering has never seen someone go through pain like that. If he had asked me to end his life I would have done it, regardless of how much it would have hurt me because he did not deserve to suffer like that.

Anyway, that's how I feel and why, feel free to blast me.
Richard