12-16-2011, 08:40 PM
Bowyn you fault me for wanting to punish bullies because they have a psychological disorder, because this behavior might have been caused by childhood traumas. Yet the same could be said for domestic abusers, those who beat their wives and children, they too were usually beaten as kids or watched their mothers get beaten.
Let's not forget child molesters, most of them were molested themselves as children. Are they victims too who need therapy instead of jail?
Hazing is another vicious cycle. People inflict physical, sexual and emotional abuse on those they initiate because they themselves were initiated like that.
Murder is a coping mechanism too, let's be honest there are people who hurt us so badly, we'd be better off if they were dead (so would society if they are evil enough).
Where do we draw the line?
What crimes can't be traced to some sort of childhood trauma?
Are there enough therapists in the world?
About your global initiative to sterilize the population. It sounds good to me, in in theory that is.
As my parents had no business raising children either, I survived in spite, not because of them, but who knows what will happen to my younger brother (it doesn't look good).
In practice this would be a "big-brother" type disaster! Some girls start menstrating at 12, therefor 12 year olds would need sterilization. Who is going to approve of injecting RISUG into pre-teen scrotums!
We also have no idea what the long-term effects of this are?
IUDs are a terrible idea, have you heard of the Dakron-shield disaster? I did a paper on it and it isn't pretty!
Besides the woman herself could remove the IUD! The Norplant system is a better idea, but it might lead to higher levels of breast and ovarian cancer.
Also who gets to decide what a qualified parent is? And even if we all agree on that how do we judge who is qualified? A multiple choice test? Not to mention that a black market system will pop up to provide children to unqualified parents. The drive to procreate is so strong that even most gays want to marry, have children and generally live like straight people.
In short there are no easy answers. However a total re-haul of our penal/prison system might be a good place to start. So would be investing in finding a better methods of sterilization.
Alas I don't see these things happening as we are to the left of the general American population.
Let's not forget child molesters, most of them were molested themselves as children. Are they victims too who need therapy instead of jail?
Hazing is another vicious cycle. People inflict physical, sexual and emotional abuse on those they initiate because they themselves were initiated like that.
Murder is a coping mechanism too, let's be honest there are people who hurt us so badly, we'd be better off if they were dead (so would society if they are evil enough).
Where do we draw the line?
What crimes can't be traced to some sort of childhood trauma?
Are there enough therapists in the world?
About your global initiative to sterilize the population. It sounds good to me, in in theory that is.
As my parents had no business raising children either, I survived in spite, not because of them, but who knows what will happen to my younger brother (it doesn't look good).
In practice this would be a "big-brother" type disaster! Some girls start menstrating at 12, therefor 12 year olds would need sterilization. Who is going to approve of injecting RISUG into pre-teen scrotums!
We also have no idea what the long-term effects of this are?
IUDs are a terrible idea, have you heard of the Dakron-shield disaster? I did a paper on it and it isn't pretty!
Besides the woman herself could remove the IUD! The Norplant system is a better idea, but it might lead to higher levels of breast and ovarian cancer.
Also who gets to decide what a qualified parent is? And even if we all agree on that how do we judge who is qualified? A multiple choice test? Not to mention that a black market system will pop up to provide children to unqualified parents. The drive to procreate is so strong that even most gays want to marry, have children and generally live like straight people.
In short there are no easy answers. However a total re-haul of our penal/prison system might be a good place to start. So would be investing in finding a better methods of sterilization.
Alas I don't see these things happening as we are to the left of the general American population.