Hell in a Handbasket

[pellaz]

... Obama we'll just get more debt and the oh so great "Obamacare".

i think you are being too harsh on the Obama.
-The Bush legacy left Obama with little to work with. There were two unfinished wars and a general international political mess to clean up. The economy was ignored for 8years. The american people were governed by fear and despair. Just came to the realization their way of life has peaked and things are on the dwn slope
-Obamacare is the best we can do with the huge medical industrial technological corperate influence. If you havnt figured it out money speaks very loud. Keep in mind; with the private insurance companies, you spend 6mo cleaning up things for your 2week hospital stay. In a recession, where i live the only construction you see is them building new hospitals, there must be lots of money there. I dotn see any doctors living a down life style.
-You complain about debt when we had two wars going on half way across the planet for the Bush administration. some one has to pay for that.

... creation of a new party is in order

the issue with a third party is there will never be a consensus and no clear majority until two of the parties have joined forces and beat up the third.