08-31-2012, 01:30 AM
ceez Wrote:I was curios to see what you guys think of this video.
That was excellent. Reminds me of what conservative Goldwater said on many things as well, such as about the Christian Right, too.
As for is it a big deal? Well Republicans have gotten away with their supporters when they say that barring rape and incest victims an abortion isn't a big deal because it happens only so rarely (this includes one who said he never heard of it yet also said a few years ago that he was "concerned" that children were raped and forced to have abortions at Planned Parenthood showing their typical honesty and twisted situational ethics in which one changes principles like socks to whatever is convenient at the moment). If the (false) fact that very few victims of rape & incest get pregnant is "insignificant" then how can they POSSIBLY make a big deal over something as trivial (in comparison to forcing women and even little girls to bear the children of those who raped them and happens far more often than voter fraud) as voter fraud?
And as for a woman in her 90s, it's not so easy to get an ID. First, she'd have to find things like her birth certificate (and not just a copy) and that costs both time and money (and money is hard to come by for many that age) if she doesn't already have it. Then there's problems caused by age & medication, including weak bladder and weak legs (meaning a typical wait in the DMV is likely to require diapers for her to get through), arthritis that can make it painful to impossible to write clearly or even at all, and a host of other problems (vision & hearing are another big problem with many that age and can cause all kinds of problems). And of course she grew up in an America that didn't require you to show your papers to exercise your rights as an American.
And let's be honest here. This never was about stopping voter fraud, it's about rigging the election as much as possible so that Republicans can win. And those quotes given in the video are also true, and many more that are even worse. There's nothing compassionate or ethical about them.