bakalove Wrote:I'm sorry but making science sound like a huge lie is really ignorant. First of all, scientists can tell what an object in space is made roughly out of through spectroscopy (think thats the right word for it). For the snow flake and Finger print thing although throughout time there probably has been duplicates especially with snow flakes I seriously doubt the percentages of duplicates are high at all. And anything outside of the moon and mars is just a guessing game??? Really do you not realize we have probes that have gone to venus and I'm pretty sure we have a few satellites around the gas giants. Science knows more then what you portray and do it with a great amount of precision -most of the time-
"These "scientists" have no clue as to what these things are, how they work, or what they are made of, much less how big they are or what they look like."
This makes me want to scream the worst. Scientists have many complex formula's and methods of measuring objects that appear only to be spec's through month's to years of observations scientists can estimate the size of planets and in the case of Gliese 581G learned that it was polarly locked to its sun. If your going to say such nonsense atleast research it first. Also we have simulations that have given us great insight into the inner workings of the universe and even though its not 100% we have a great understanding of how the universe for how vast and complex it is.
As historians are learning (in the past few years), the earth is older than what has always been told to us as "fact". This includes all the "facts" about dinosaurs, and other past eras.
Nothing is fact if you dont have proof. PERIOD.
As I said, science is a guessing game. Thats all it is.
They base everything they know about the universe on what goes on in this solar system.
They do not have FACTS to back up what they preach as truth.....which makes what they say, lies. Now if they said "this is my hypothisis" and then continue telling me that they found a planet made of diamonds, then I would agree with them. But telling me it is FACT...well, thats just a bold faced lie.
They invent all sorts of gadgets to measure this and that...in OUR solar system. These people have never been outside our solar system, and they never will be in their lifetimes, therefore they still have no FACTS to go on.
Just because they have a gadget to measure oxygen here, doesnt mean it will work the same on some other planet. And just because some other planet looks blue to them, does not mean it is covered with water.
Probes do not take the place of actual, physical presence.
Just like the "pyramids" and the "alien face" on the moon are just abnormalities in the planets surface that just happen to look like something from this planet, doesnt make it true.
Until they go there in person and prove it, its all lies.
Probes are also not 100% accurate. If they want to do some REAL scientific studies, then they need to send a fully automated drone (the size of a car) to go collect some REAL samples of everything, including a test core of a drilled out piece of topsoil. I could believe theories based on that, because at least THAT would be based on fact.
Just because something works here, doesnt mean it will work there.
The deserts are full of mirages. Whos to say most of this stuff they are seeing through telescopes arent mirages of some kind?
My theory on black holes is, its just an area of space that has noting there, from this standpoint. Its not a collapsed planet sucking in everything around it....thats science fiction, not science fact. Notice I said THEORY, not that is was FACT. Ive never been to a black hole, so I dont really know what it is, if it is anything at all. Preaching or teaching my theory as FACT would only make me a liar.
These people have no reason to be preaching and teaching this stuff as fact, when they have no hard proof to back it up. All they have are guesses and theories. Preaching and teaching these things as fact only makes them charlatons, liars, cheats, and "snake oil salesmen". They arent scientists at all.