SS Civil Unions may pass here

[Lalo]

Consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they want.

One of the things people throw up is if we allow the gays to marry then polygamy will take place. If three women want to share a man and nag him to death, they should be allowed to do that. If a man wants to have three women nagging him to death, that is his choice.

While I personally don't get group marriages - I being so hardwired for monogamy, I do not see why its not allowed if every individual involved consents to it.

These other arguments like marrying children, marrying animals, marrying corpses all boils down to one individual in that marriage not being able to consent in a reasonable, mature manner to such marriage.

I think we need to really look at this whole marriage thing. All of it is currently set to an impossible length (until death do us part) and not a single murder law allows one to part with their spouse in that manner. Perhaps its time we set reasonable contracts of 5, 10 and 20 years with options to extend the contract after it expires. yeah I know, that will suck for divorce lawyers, but it would make this whole 'marriage' idea more reasonable and suitable for the majority who can't seem to stick with their partner for life.

I'm also all for the idea that marriage should be more than vows. I think all individuals involved should have their left pinky whacked off and allowed to bleed for a minute. I bet there would be far fewer 'accidental' rushed marriages if it cost a finger and lots of pain, and there would be far less individuals being tricked into an affair with a married person.

Seriously, if you love someone so much that you willingly sacrifice a finger for them, you most likely will love them enough and long enough to put up with their crap for a whole life.

Actually, the whole limited contract thing I believe has a lot of merit. Our society forgets that throughout history, the idea of "lifelong commitment" did not mean as much as it does today. In centuries past, life expectancy for both men and women was drastically shorter than today. Death ended many a marriage within a ten to fifteen year span, or even sooner! Unfortunately, as in many other areas, our society hasn't caught up with technological advances and we create our own dysfunction because of it.

[pellaz]

[QUOTE=Bowyn Aerrow;260504 ... individuals involved should have their left pinky whacked off and allowed to bleed for a minute. I bet there would be far fewer 'accidental' rushed marriages if it cost a finger and lots of pain ... [/QUOTE]beyond dramatic dont you think sir? Consider 50% of the marriages fail
but the other half remain married for their entire life.

[Sport77]

So Colorado is more progressive than California.... ?

Darn Liberals all moved to Colorado I guess :biggrin:

Its a good thing. the more states that acknowledge equality the sooner the Fed will step in and mandate equality for all states.

My belief on California's prop 8, is that it passed because of the way the campaign was handled. Prop 8 , like most propositions, not all the people clearly understood what they were actually voting for. The yes ads greatly outnumbered the no ads, and with greater frequency as well. 29% of the yes on 8 campaign funds even came from out of state, and from mostly religious groups. Clearly some people were worried that the ban on gay marriage would be voted down. Some people even voted yes because they misunderstood the significance of one vote versus the other.

In either case, more and more people are starting to believe in gender equality, and States are coming around to make gay marriage legal.

There's also the chance, like Bowyn Aerrow mentions, that the supreme court may declare prop 8 unconstitutional. This is highly possible given the fact that more states have already come forward to make gay marriage legal since the passage of CA prop 8.

Unless you're a racist,bigot or a homophobe, why would anyone want to restrict or strip away the rights of any American citizen.

When voting on anything. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. The most important part of any political ad is the ending with the fast "Paid For By" and the equally as fast lawyer speal. When in doubt, follow the money.

[72jay]

The civil unions bill has now passed both the Colorado Senate and House .yay.
Now its on its way to the Governor , who has said he will sign/approve it :biggrin:


..I bet there'll be some parties down in Denver when that happens!

[Bowyn Aerrow]

Crap on a cracker. Damn liberal States like yours are putting conservative states like mine in the position of needed to protest your liberal ways - what next, are you going to pass pot taking into law too?

I'm sure glad I don't live in a socialist, liberal state like Colorado. We Californians are all proper like, good God Fearing people and conservative too!

/humor

[trywait]

along with the pakalolo

[pellaz]

pakalolo, its new legal too

[ceez]

Actually, the whole limited contract thing I believe has a lot of merit. Our society forgets that throughout history, the idea of "lifelong commitment" did not mean as much as it does today. In centuries past, life expectancy for both men and women was drastically shorter than today. Death ended many a marriage within a ten to fifteen year span, or even sooner! Unfortunately, as in many other areas, our society hasn't caught up with technological advances and we create our own dysfunction because of it.

Wow, I never really thought about that. I guess that's why jesus let the couples in the arranged marriages divorce, if they weren't eventually stoned for adultry it would have been for murder