Dopamine - The new "PORN-DRUG" - have you noticed any changes?

[Bowyn Aerrow]

No I never had to use a fleshlight. But to be honest about it I'm sort of limp-fisted with with myself, I use the two finger approach and 'tease' myself. I don't do the death grip. Hmm TMI?

And I don't watch that much porn, maybe a (1) movie once a month if that.

Yes it is disturbing, and its not a 'win' for our side. These are not healthy gays who are capable of long term homosexual relationships, these are guys who want a relationship with women but are relying on guys to get off. It is sorta sad and a sickness (illness) where they can't be happy and anyone who dates them will end up unhappy.

[Pix]

TMore and more men can't maintain an erection, or even climax, when in bed with women / men (but not when sitting in front of a PC-screen, rummaging around for the next porn-clip that'll get them off).

I've been harassed by more than a few men whom I think watched too much porn (and get upset when I didn't act like some blonde bimbo off Suzie Sucks Seattle or whatever). Now suddenly I'm wondering if I should've "agreed" in the hopes this would happen so I could REALLY discourage them from harassing me or other women in the future by making a huge deal out of it.

An unreal expectation of sex partners to "entertain" men as sensuously as professional porn stars do, leaves many men around the world sub-consciously (and now consciously) unhappy with real sex.

Women have a similar problem with the romance genre (as well as fairytales like Beauty and the Beast) giving an unrealistic example of men to women so that when it's not so perfect they wonder "what's wrong" (and can't figure out they've mistaken fantasy for reality and thus hold unrealistic expectations). I've long thought that schools should have a BS 101 course early on before kids start getting into the habit of thinking all the shows they watch are accurate portrayals of reality (many figure it out on their own but a depressing number don't).

Dopamine-rush - a chemical secreted in the brain, when a certain kind of "extreme" is achieved (usually through increasingly perverted sex images), keeps men coming back for more. This chemical is in charge of pleasure-centers in the brain. When it runs around the body, a feeling of a "buzz of joy" overwhelms men. This keeps men coming back for more, neglecting their sex partners.
This chemical is addictive and cannot be secreted by having real sex.

I have a hard time accepting this. However, I could see that men look at porn when they're ready for sex whereas they may feel obligated or pressured to have sex at times they're not ready and/or with partners whom they're not entirely happy with at the moment or would feel judged by if they offered their true desires and thus FOR THAT REASON find it easier to jerk off to porn.

But if true, it makes me wonder if the opposite is true as well: do those in fulfilling sexual lives find porn uninteresting? :confused:

Also, what of the porn designed for couples (not to be confused with porn that has the thing he, or she, wants to try but is too scared to say directly)?

Teenage boys, as young as 17-18 have been reported to have had erectile dysfunction induced by porn. We're not talking about 50-60 year-old men, we're talking about teens in their prime!

And just where did they (and WHO are they, and who funds them?) find the teens to admit to this? :confused:

I also wonder if there were any inducements for teens to say this. I recall how many teens in my schools would give the answers they thought would give them the most reward (or least grief) than what was actually true...and also being silly or completely random (answering without even looking at the question) is also known to happen. Another thing I wonder is how many are on psyche meds (which also make for sexual dysfunction).

ETA: and btw, I wonder how many teens actually even have a real chance at a sexual relationship so that they would know...

[MisterTinkles]

"unreal expectations"...........its ALWAYS been this way, and it will continue to be this way until people start using the brain cells sitting in their heads, doing nothing.

Flacid men....well, thats one way to sterilze populations and keep them in check.

[Mike]

No I never had to use a fleshlight. But to be honest about it I'm sort of limp-fisted with with myself, I use the two finger approach and 'tease' myself. I don't do the death grip. Hmm TMI?

You just "tease" yourself? That's it? I bet that's not how it ends. I mean, you can't go all the way with only 2 fingers. You're bound to give yourself the "death grip".

Right?

[OrphanPip]

The infinite terror of onanism, brought to us by the resurfacing of Victorian medical pseudoscience.

[Pix]

The infinite terror of onanism, brought to us by the resurfacing of Victorian medical pseudoscience.

I vaguely recall that a few years ago CA 9th circuit okayed a San Diego law forcing porn stores to shut down in the wee hours. The reason? Because they felt the law prevented people from masturbating outside of porn shops which diverted police attention when it was most needed.

Yeah, sure, if there's a burglary, rape, robbery, murder going on, or even vandalism, then the cops are helpless to intervene if they're forced to patrol porn shops for wankers. Because masturbating is perhaps the worst thing you do besides smoke pot.

Another one I vaguely recall was reading a law blog on how Texas legislators eagerly passed laws against gangs selling sex toys, too. But then that is a state where they actually use undercover cops to ferret out sex toy dealers and conduct raids over it.

[Kiid]

2. The "Death Grip" - masturbatory "hold" of the penis in a "death grip" - an extremely tight grip, which cannot be achieved through anal (or vaginal) penetration and cannot be felt when performing real sex, leaves men frustrated and suffering from ED (Erectile Dysfunction).

Don't make me use my death grip XD

[Pix]

For fun, try to reconcile the ED articles with this:

http://m.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2...up/274529/

Long story short: hook up sex is rampant in college.

Note, I'm cynical about this study (which isn't to say I think it's not happening at all, just that it's not as universal as they're making it out to be) just as I am of the ED (where I'm sure it's true of a few but far from all) which I'll explain if anyone is interested, but my point here is to show how easy it is to make assertions which assume correlation equals causation and that it's affecting a lot more people than it is. In any case I don't see how both claims can be true.

[Brendan]

All four of those points are simply false. The "Death Grip" does not compare to the orifice of another human being. No matter how much I whack off I am always interested in having sex. In fact I find masturbation just makes me hornier and desire actual sex all the more. And of course dopamine is realeased during actual sex. A lot of religious people despise pornography. I bet these "facts" are nothing more than religiously motivated pseudoscientific propaganda.

[cardiganwearer]

John Harvey Kellog lives among us still.

I had prepared a bit of a critique of that TED talk, but let me offer a song instead. It describes most of the symptoms and addresses a few of the arguments and dates from a good twenty years before widespread availability of internet porn.