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charity collecters/commercials.
#21
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/13/us/worst-c...index.html

Quote:The worst charity in America operates from a metal warehouse behind a gas station in Holiday, Florida.

Every year, Kids Wish Network raises millions of dollars in donations in the name of dying children and their families.

Every year, it spends less than 3 cents on the dollar helping kids.

Most of the rest gets diverted to enrich the charity's operators and the for-profit companies Kids Wish hires to drum up donations.

In the past decade alone, Kids Wish has channeled nearly $110 million donated for sick children to its corporate solicitors. An additional $4.8 million has gone to pay the charity's founder and his own consulting firms.

No charity in the nation has siphoned more money away from the needy over a longer period of time.

But Kids Wish is not an isolated case, a yearlong investigation by the Tampa Bay Times and The Center for Investigative Reporting has found.

Using state and federal records, the Times and CIR identified nearly 6,000 charities that have chosen to pay for-profit companies to raise their donations.

Then reporters took an unprecedented look back to zero in on the 50 worst - based on the money they diverted to boiler room operators and other solicitors over a decade.

America's 50 worst charities

These nonprofits adopt popular causes or mimic well-known charity names that fool donors. Then they rake in cash, year after year.

A lot more detail there for anyone who wishes to see it. :frown:
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#22
I dont see anybody doing a suffering/save the homeless advert in the USA or any other country for that matter.

Everybody suffers. I could make an advert of my life that would make you give me your bank account number, but I dont. BECAUSE IM NOT A LYING THIEF!

99% of "charities" are nothing more than underhanded mafia style tactics to squeeze money out of the stupid and gullible.

Out of every dollar given to ANY charity, only 1 - 5 cents goes to the intended people its meant for. And sometimes not even that. Most of it goes to advertising, and the rest go to the bloodsuckers who own the charity.
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#23
Damn it. I was just washing my car earlier and someone came up to me with a clipboard for donations for a drug recovery program. While I was telling them off, the water spots dried and fucked up my wash. Can they at least pick good times to bug us, rather than while I'm trying to dry off my car properly? They obviously don't care about us, so why should we care about them?
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#24
I feel I should point out, not all charities are evil...
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#25
None.
You're expectations of what a Charitable organisation should be is unrealisticly high.

Likewise, I think your view of charities as unrealisticly low.

Quote:Our data shows that 7 out of 10 charities we've evaluated spend at least 75% of their budget on the programs and services they exist to provide. And 9 out of 10 spend at least 65%. We believe that those spending less than a third of their budget on program expenses are simply not living up to their missions. Charities demonstrating such gross inefficiency receive a 0-star rating for their Financial Health.
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cf...26&print=1
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#26
Krupt Wrote:not really...If I can 100% of my time to helping someone for CHARITY I expect 100% of my money that goes to CHARITY to actually go to CHARITY, not to administration and a little bit to CHARITY...because basically if 'donations' are used to run a CHARITY, then that CHARITY ceases to be a CHARITY and becomes a BUSINESS that give s a little back to the community.

So assuming that an organisation that gives some money is called a CHARITY, wouldn't that mean that companies like Costco, Coles, Harrods are technically CHARITIES and should be able to seek tax breaks?

When an organisation sells no products, collects donations from the public, the majority of which goes to the causes they promote, the rest allowing them to work full time to help better the world, I think that's good enough for it to be considered charitable and a charity.

It's sad people can't manage an international effort all voluntarily and for free, but it is a pretty complicated thing to manage, a full time thing to manage even, and those people need to live off of something.
The fact most of these organisations run on donations alone is a small miracle in my opinion.
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#27
Krupt Wrote:ahhh...so the church is a charity?
Churches being part of a religion, ergo, not focused on charity, does make calling it a charity a bit of a stretch. Charities normally being fully dedicated to their causes, rather than charitable actions being a project on the side.

As charitable acts make up a small percentage(2.73%) of at least the Catholic Churches spending, I'm not sure it matters much anyway.
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http://www.economist.com/node/21560536
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#28
partisan Wrote:OK fine but i don't need to be told.

I do watch a little tv (does that make me dumb) and these ads do exist, just coz u cant see them.

And saying "no thank you" is fine once, twice, possibly 3 times! But there always there everywhere, its becoming "uniform"

But fine, your happy with it, im not.

I don't know, does that make you dumb?

Like it or not the world is going to hell in a hand basket. That little thing the western nations are calling the Big Recession has done a number on charities and that in turn has affected the poor, the homeless, the hungry big time. So yes the charities are out in force and are begging for more money which is actually less money since a lot of people have had to cut back on their generosity in order to survive themselves.

If I recall correctly you have been homeless yourself, thus you know what it is like to be in need of help.

And No these charities are not perfect, but they do far much more than anyone else to address the issues and try to feed the hungry, shelter the homeless and put clothes on the back of the naked.

And there is no 'getting better', there is no 'recovery' coming. Things are going to get worse because people continue breeding like rabbits and the global population keeps going up. to make it worse the world is running out of everything. Cheap oil - gone, Cheap metals - gone, Cheap minerals - gone.

We are at Peak Everything on Planet Earth. More people are going to be hurting, more charities are going to beg for more money.

But I assure you the charities will give up, and so will the Insurance companies. With more interesting weather events the insurance companies can't keep up.

Oh and we are running out of fertile soil - even the Central Valley that had the worlds most fertile soil, poor land management, crappy use of chemical pesticides, herbicides, chemical fertilizers and irrigation without proper removal of salts is devouring acre after acre of land.

This little uptick in commercial adverts for charity is a symptom of a much larger problem.

You are sick of the symptom - when you should be terrified out of your skull at the illness that causes the symptom.

The world population is set to hit 9 billion by 2042. 9,000,000,000.

The world is staggering under the weight of the masses and attempting to feed, clothe, shelter and provide the basics for the over 7.167 billion that are here already.

Its going to get worse - much worse.

You are sick of these commercials and the begging. You should actually be scared shitless - scared about the coming future where there is far less for far more people.
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#29
B.A i am terrified, well not terrified but not happy, its a chaotic mess where nothing ever gets better, and whats worse is its happening against a background of mediocrity where everyone's looking the other way or watching "the x factor" younger generation are even more stupid!

Homeless charity organisations - i dont know i have the time to tell you. Only they make a lot more money than they spend, are staffed by inexperienced, sometimes downright immoral people. They can take up to over 200 a week from government to look after you, which includes chucking you in an enclosed space with all the others, even people out of prison, making you cook your own food out of donations (we cook it, its donated, its the worst most grubby stuff) so where did all that money go. Were sleeping in dirty-ass bunkbeds crammed into a piss-hole - people will & do avoid this "help" and stay saner and healthier living in a doorway.

I know in london it gets worse.
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#30
And then i laugh my ROYAL ASS off when some bright-eyed spark approaches me from homeless organisation, i DO try to just avoid them. Yet i will help the individual, i can see when somebody genuinely need it and ive even sheltered people in the past.

No i dont think watching a little tv makes you dumb, but a lot does possibly.
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