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THE "L" Word
#11
I tell everyone i love them lol .. like if they have nice clothes on im like " OMG i love you"

but yeah i dont think it loses value if you use it all the time in a relationship
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#12
Ughhh I don't believe in love. #nervous look, because last time I said that I got pounced upon by a girl with a fairy tale fixation...#

I believe in levels of attraction... I never use the word love though, because of its silly magical connotations, brought to it by love-conquers-all-disneycrap and other such plot devices...
So I don't suppose I don't believe in love, so much as I don't believe it's this maaaagical thing...

And there's the overuse of it... Which means it can mean either everything or nothing, which is very confusing.

Although I don't think when people say it a lot they don't mean it, I just think sometimes it means they get attached to things or people very easily. Or that they don't mean it.


...Basically if I was ever to tell someone I love them, it would be in reply to them saying it to me, and it would be late in the relationship, because they obviously mean it, and hold some importance in the dancing-fairies-magical meaning of it, which I'd be more than happy to feign to make him happy if I was attracted and attached to him enough.

Hmmmmmmm
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#13
Wilem Wrote:Ughhh I don't believe in love. #nervous look, because last time I said that I got pounced upon by a girl with a fairy tale fixation...#

I believe in levels of attraction... I never use the word love though, because of its silly magical connotations, brought to it by love-conquers-all-disneycrap and other such plot devices...
So I don't suppose I don't believe in love, so much as I don't believe it's this maaaagical thing...

And there's the overuse of it... Which means it can mean either everything or nothing, which is very confusing.

Although I don't think when people say it a lot they don't mean it, I just think sometimes it means they get attached to things or people very easily. Or that they don't mean it.


...Basically if I was ever to tell someone I love them, it would be in reply to them saying it to me, and it would be late in the relationship, because they obviously mean it, and hold some importance in the dancing-fairies-magical meaning of it, which I'd be more than happy to feign to make him happy if I was attracted and attached to him enough.

Hmmmmmmm


When I was much much younger, I remember asking my elder brother's then girlfriend, who was an intelligent woman: What does it feel like to be in love? What does it mean? And she, bless her, said: When you're in love yourself one day, you'll know it.

I think she was right. I've loved many people on a friendly level, or an affectionate level, but I've never felt before what I feel for Marshlander today (I mean in my present life). So I guess there is something "different" about it. It's a mixture of all sorts of feelings which leave a pleasant glow.
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#14
princealbertofb Wrote:When I was much much younger, I remember asking my elder brother's then girlfriend, who was an intelligent woman: What does it feel like to be in love? What does it mean? And she, bless her, said: When you're in love yourself one day, you'll know it.

I think she was right. I've loved many people on a friendly level, or an affectionate level, but I've never felt before what I feel for Marshlander today (I mean in my present life). So I guess there is something "different" about it. It's a mixture of all sorts of feelings which leave a pleasant glow.

Ohhhh yer I've had it... I'm in it for christ's sake,
I just don't see it making trees bloom, and birds sing. It's just an overwhelming emotion, nothing more nothing less. I hate its connotations, so I hate using it.
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#15
Wilem Wrote:Ohhhh yer I've had it... I'm in it for christ's sake,
I just don't see it making trees bloom, and birds sing. It's just an overwhelming emotion, nothing more nothing less. I hate its connotations, so I hate using it.

Disney can be, indeed, quite schmaltzy... unfortunately.Rolleyes I think love is stronger than that imagery, but at the same time it is universal, in that, most people will admit its existence as a human feeling (albeit an overwhelming one).
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#16
princealbertofb Wrote:Disney can be, indeed, quite schmaltzy... unfortunately.Rolleyes I think love is stronger than that imagery, but at the same time it is universal, in that, most people will admit its existence as a human feeling (albeit an overwhelming one).
Urhhhh see the way you say "stronger than that imagery" makes me flinch at how it's percieved as some kind of magic.

Its just attraction... The feeling it gives us is the same as any other type of attraction: happiness and a feeling of safety and that stomach/floaty thing. (Which is just linked up the the whole procreation/continuation-of-life-to-carry-on-with-more-procreation type thing we've got written into our DNA.) Love just marks the higher echelons of that feeling. At what height of attraction do people believe it becomes this whole seperate entity? It's just so semantically and philosophically problematic the whole notion of the seperation of love and attraction as emotions.
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#17
Wilem Wrote:Urhhhh see the way you say "stronger than that imagery" makes me flinch at how it's percieved as some kind of magic.

Its just attraction... The feeling it gives us is the same as any other type of attraction: happiness and a feeling of safety and that stomach/floaty thing. (Which is just linked up the the whole procreation/continuation-of-life-to-carry-on-with-more-procreation type thing we've got written into our DNA.) Love just marks the higher echelons of that feeling. At what height of attraction do people believe it becomes this whole seperate entity? It's just so semantically and philosophically problematic the whole notion of the seperation of love and attraction as emotions.
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Maybe 'stronger' is the wrong word, when I meant 'multiple'; not just the one-sided image given generally by Disneyesque films. And I'd say it's very much different, depending on which two people (or more) feel the attraction. In any case, LOVE is both a difficult word to say and a very EASY word to say, especially when that's how you really feel... (but again, I'll admit that it's possible to say the words and fake it totally, which equates with invalidating the whole word)
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#18
ARGH

never mind.
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#19
Wilem Wrote:ARGH

never mind.

It's that bad, is it?
I think your point was clear, Wilem, don't worry... but how do we know that our definition of love is anywhere close to anyone else's?
I agree with your DNA attraction continuation of life thing, that is programmed but then it's not just that or we wouldn't be gay... would we?
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#20
princealbertofb Wrote:It's that bad, is it?
I think your point was clear, Wilem, don't worry... but how do we know that our definition of love is anywhere close to anyone else's?
I agree with your DNA attraction continuation of life thing, that is programmed but then it's not just that or we wouldn't be gay... would we?
I think it translates. Something in our brain compells us to love, have sex, procreate. Just something else in there determines whether we have them feelings toward the opposite sex, or the same sex... Ours is the same sex ones. Same feelings, but a dead end in terms of evolution... heh
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