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I don't think fighting warmongering is fearmongering.
I did understand a lot of what was in the video based on my background from when I studied engineering, so I don't think Stephen Fry was being that speculative. As for the product the video was trying to sell, well, that was in the title of the video, to petition Biden to not spend a trillion US tax dollars to revamp the US's nuclear program that would escalate the risk. The risk that has existed since the beginning of the Cold War.
Our risk has never been higher, even during the height of the cold war, because of a new generation of hypersonic ICBMs that can't be detected in time have been developed.
We should all have fear of nuclear weapons. We don't have to have emotional fear where our brains are running on fight-or-flight, but we should have intellectual fear. Fear is what made us develop these weapons in the first place. Hating bigots who define themselves by their hatred does not make you a bigot, and fearing warmongers who are in-effect fearmongers does not make you a fearmonger yourself.
If believing a nuclear war is a threat is a conspiracy, then I'll proudly join the tinfoil hat club that has been shared by Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking. Sure, the world has been chugging along since the beginning of the Cold War - with a few close calls here in there, what with, you know, the Cuban Missile Crisis and the computer glitches and all that.
People need to know these things. The hydrogen bomb is more than a thousand times more powerful than the atomic bombs that were cruelly dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nuclear bombs aren't dropped anymore - they can be fired at hypersonic speeds that wiz from one side of the world to the other within minutes. Taking out any other country with enough of them will take out everyone else in a nuclear winter.
Is the likelihood of the nuclear version of shit-hitting-the-fan small? Only if we are all conscious of this horrid responsibility that we humans have created for ourselves. And unlikely things happen all the time.
And no Mike, I'm not shivering and trembling over the possibility of a nuclear war - I merely except it as a fact. The possibility has increased in likelihood, hence why the "Doomsday Clock" has been increased. And the Doomsday Clock isn't a gimmick, here's the University of Chicago to back it up:Â https://news.uchicago.edu/explainer/what...sday-clock
Being openly aware of the threat of nuclear war is no more fearmongering than being openly aware of climate change. I mean, just think about how many times you've heard conservatives, Republicans, and Fox News call climate change scientists fearmongers? It's the same thing. And those very people who happen to call the scientists who warn of climate change "fear mongers" happen to be war mongers who aren't afraid of nuclear war - they WANT it to happen. I've heard so many stupid people say "We should just nuke country X" too many times than I can count - how many times have you heard it? Little do these idiots know it would cause a nuclear winter that'd freeze their asses off.
I'm not being kept up at night over the Great Barrier Reef dying from climate change, but I am upset over it. Likewise, I'm not shaking and trembling over how easily the world could end from a nuclear war - but I am upset about it. I'm not seething and getting red in the face -Â I'm aware of it, I accept it.
Anyway, I know you like having intelligent conversations like this. So if you'd like to have another one on something else, you can pick the topic.
I don't think fighting warmongering is fearmongering.
I did understand a lot of what was in the video based on my background from when I studied engineering, so I don't think Stephen Fry was being that speculative. As for the product the video was trying to sell, well, that was in the title of the video, to petition Biden to not spend a trillion US tax dollars to revamp the US's nuclear program that would escalate the risk. The risk that has existed since the beginning of the Cold War.
Our risk has never been higher, even during the height of the cold war, because of a new generation of hypersonic ICBMs that can't be detected in time have been developed.
We should all have fear of nuclear weapons. We don't have to have emotional fear where our brains are running on fight-or-flight, but we should have intellectual fear. Fear is what made us develop these weapons in the first place. Hating bigots who define themselves by their hatred does not make you a bigot, and fearing warmongers who are in-effect fearmongers does not make you a fearmonger yourself.
If believing a nuclear war is a threat is a conspiracy, then I'll proudly join the tinfoil hat club that has been shared by Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking. Sure, the world has been chugging along since the beginning of the Cold War - with a few close calls here in there, what with, you know, the Cuban Missile Crisis and the computer glitches and all that.
People need to know these things. The hydrogen bomb is more than a thousand times more powerful than the atomic bombs that were cruelly dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nuclear bombs aren't dropped anymore - they can be fired at hypersonic speeds that wiz from one side of the world to the other within minutes. Taking out any other country with enough of them will take out everyone else in a nuclear winter.
Is the likelihood of the nuclear version of shit-hitting-the-fan small? Only if we are all conscious of this horrid responsibility that we humans have created for ourselves. And unlikely things happen all the time.
And no Mike, I'm not shivering and trembling over the possibility of a nuclear war - I merely except it as a fact. The possibility has increased in likelihood, hence why the "Doomsday Clock" has been increased. And the Doomsday Clock isn't a gimmick, here's the University of Chicago to back it up:Â https://news.uchicago.edu/explainer/what...sday-clock
Being openly aware of the threat of nuclear war is no more fearmongering than being openly aware of climate change. I mean, just think about how many times you've heard conservatives, Republicans, and Fox News call climate change scientists fearmongers? It's the same thing. And those very people who happen to call the scientists who warn of climate change "fear mongers" happen to be war mongers who aren't afraid of nuclear war - they WANT it to happen. I've heard so many stupid people say "We should just nuke country X" too many times than I can count - how many times have you heard it? Little do these idiots know it would cause a nuclear winter that'd freeze their asses off.
I'm not being kept up at night over the Great Barrier Reef dying from climate change, but I am upset over it. Likewise, I'm not shaking and trembling over how easily the world could end from a nuclear war - but I am upset about it. I'm not seething and getting red in the face -Â I'm aware of it, I accept it.
Anyway, I know you like having intelligent conversations like this. So if you'd like to have another one on something else, you can pick the topic.
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Leo
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