Apologies to all GS

[Bowyn Aerrow]

There was no need to bring Meme's race into this!

Species my dear, Neanderthal is a species, not a race....

[CellarDweller]

We all make mistakes.....Stingray feels remorse, why say that he's not coming back?

I don't think the post was a bannable offence, I hope that Stingray will be back.

[larafan25]

I think it's very... cool... that y'all care this much and are... like... so rational. I mean, youtube... have you seen youtube?

I mean shit.

Even I've said some crazy crap in my online past that has me sayin "oh guuuurl"... thus I think we should be forgiving.

[CellarDweller]

Even I've said some crazy crap in my online past that has me sayin "oh guuuurl"... thus I think we should be forgiving.

[CellarDweller]

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Would like to say something that has not been addressed, take note I do not condone the attitude, language, abuse and disrespect SR showed to the member and especially to women.

My curiosity was piqued after reading this thread so I ventured to find the thread and posts in question causing all the drama.

I think it would be a disservice to both this community and to Ray if he decided to longer post out of shame and embarrassment.

One thing I like about this place is the level of honesty, sincerity and respect given to each other. Although this is a safe, respectable place for primarily gay people dealing with aspects of the human condition unique to lbgtq people, dating, relationships and matters of the heart cross all lines-age, gender, orientation.

It is very clear, to me anyway, after reading his posts, it seems Ray has some serious pain, anger and resentment towards women and I suspect he has been hurt and burned by women in the past. While the abuse in his posts are inexcusable, the cause and motivation behind them should not be overlooked and is more reason enough for him to stay and possibly open up about his own issues that he could clearly benefit from by input and support from this community.

Were he to feel that he could freely open up and share some of what he's been through that has given him that view of women specifically, he may be able to find some guidance and direction on how to heal his mind from whatever damage has been done. Peace of mind may help him find the love and respect of a good woman to share the rest of his life with as a needed companion.

No one should feel that they are not able to share and relate aspects of their life simply because it does not specifically involve a "gay issue". When on this board, we should all feel welcome and all feel we are among friends that we can freely, openly talk about things that are on our minds that are bothering us.

I can tell you from experience, specifically when it comes to men, that not too many people in the "straight world" like to open up and share their feelings about things they have been through and the hurt and pain they have experienced with women and relationships.

Perhaps this can be a safe place for straight people as well to deal with things they easily can't out in the real world.

My 2 cents anyway.

[ChadCoxRox]

I agree with all of the above. I wonder if you, Meme, actually feel and think as strongly now as you convey in the OP of this thread. If so, that seems as "over the top" as any regretted blurt made by Stingray. You don't get banned from GS for a transgression of this sort anyway. I have not even read the post yet. I'll go find it and come back if needed, but just based on what's in this thread. Forgiveness is the stuff of healing, growing and true love.

[trywait]

there are worse online offenders than that momentary lapse with stingray

[ChadCoxRox]

OK so I found the thread. Great Googly Moogly Stinger! My first thought was "damn is he drunk?" LOL It was pretty offensive...and not for the challenge but in the delivery. You made a good point take a total back seat to unacceptable delivery. So were you drunk?

Meme, I understand your thread better. You are one good dude to take so much strong responsibility for your friend and the GS family. Hugs for that. If he apologized and feels remorse that's a good thing that needs to be communicated by him here. No banning for being real in a true fuck up, ESPECIALLY if the perp admits it and has remorse.

I just love having BOTH of you here and find your contributions far too valuable to lose. This is a great opportunity for learning and growth as I said before.

I also want to commend everyone for some truly great feedback. I'm always finding myself impressed and encouraged when I find time to read posts of GS!

[Virge]

Okay. East can vouch for some things I told him ages back. I NEVER make an instant decision when I'm mad. I always find ways to get good advice when I need it and when I get good advice I act on it without considering my feelings. I waited 12 hours to get back here to read what's been said. After the weekend I'll get around to letting Ray know what you guys have said --- I have to say I am totally surprised by your responses and have to tell you your words and insight haven't made my anger with Ray come close to mellowing.

Okay Thanks guys. You'll probably see Ray back in here early next week.