Hey there!

[DonJon]

gradytt!

[Rareboy]

Please forgive the intrusion.....but did you know it is perfectly okay to be a bi-sexual bottom? I think that you may be creating a bit of a box for yourself by stoutly maintaining your 'straightness' because you may find being penetrated 'demasculating', to use your term.

But self-identifying as a bi-sexual who really, really enjoys being penetrated could open up entirely new sexual and emotional horizons for you......as someone who is gold card homo and loves to bottom as well as top....I can assure you that my masculinity is not undermined by what I enjoy doing in bed.

My advice is to get out there and enjoy your sexual side as openly and freely as possible without feelings of guilt or ambivalence and I'll bet you'll have a much happier and fuller emotional life too. From what I've seen, you'll get all the support you could hope for here.....

[Hardheaded1]

Thanks for the thought, Sugar Doodle, but I ain't a moaner. My love used to marvel that I was so quite

DAMMIT!

[ChadCoxRox]

Thanks for the thought, Sugar Doodle, but I ain't a moaner. My love used to marvel that I was so quite. My online forum friends would never believe it due to the volume of words I post. Seth is lurking about here somewhere under a new ID, and I know he's itching to jump in here and testify.

Actually I meant the OP's moans...sorry for the lack of clarity.

[ChadCoxRox]

I'm just confounded as to why having sex with men is defined as "not physically attracted to men." Of course it's physical attraction. It's all about the physical from what both you and Grady are describing.

It simply appears that it is sex without relationship, which is very different than not being physically attracted.

The confusion is because of your sensitivity to and awareness of the subconscious. On a more visceral level the OP simple portrays the obsession with the sensation of being screwed in the ass, just like my ex wife.

[Virge]

Ignore me. I'm just waiting for this thread to make a loopy turn before I jump in.

[LJay]

Welcome here. You will get lots o questions, but this site has a large umbrella and I hope you will enjoy it.

So your friends don't resent you but according to your profile you are closeted. To what exent do they know? Just a little confusing to me....

[Virge]

[gradytt]

I totally get it. I knew a lot of men like you years ago ...and had sex with all of them...great sex every time.

The part that attracted me was they were not emotionally or physically attracted to men...I love sex with NO STRINGS!!! It's a great match for me...

A lot of people will try to define you and your sexuality and strangely enough...none of these guys really said they were straight but I knew they were emotionally and physically attracted to women....they didn't have to say it.

Exactly. For me the turn on is giving myself up to another man. It's a kink and because it is only a kink for me most people get angry at that.

[East]

I'm just confounded as to why having sex with men is defined as "not physically attracted to men." Of course it's physical attraction. It's all about the physical from what both you and Grady are describing.

It simply appears that it is sex without relationship, which is very different than not being physically attracted.

I think sexuality is far more complex than most other people do. It is more about a feeling that a physical attraction really ....in my opinion....

When I met the men who are like this...it was never really about the way they looked or anything emotional...it was more of a magnet attraction. They wanted to get fucked and I wanted to fuck them....I was turned on most by the lack of an emotional or physical attraction because it was intense and I didn't have to bring anything to the table except my penis and the desire to fuck. We both got what we wanted and didn't have to sacrifice anything in the process....

I don't really like anyone to focus on my physical appearance ...it is a turn off for me....my ego doesn't require it...so these kinds of guys were perfect sexual chemistry for me. I understood instinctively that they were emotionally and physically attracted to women but they wanted to get fucked....a lot of them try the dido or strap on thing with the women but that doesn't always cut it so they will find men who want nothing from them except their ass....they can go for hours as well and I like that part too....

I don't have that curse of wanting a straight man or falling in love with one...or even getting a crush on one. I like a gay man who has a male/female balance of energy and I am only attracted emotionally to those kinds of guys....

I have a "thing" about letting anyone define my sexuality (and a lot of other things) so I extend that courtesy to other people for the most part and I don't care to define anyone else's sexuality. I can see why some people think they are bi....I just prefer to let a person define their own sexuality. The only time I have a problem with it is when someone like Ted Haggard or Marcus Bachman use their self hatred to harm other people.