Islamic migration in to Europe

[LONDONER]

It surely cannot have passed anyone's notice that hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria and Afghanistan principally, are travelling to Europe (mainly to Germany) in search of asylum, a fact that will eventually cost the European Union billions of dollars.

Two thoughts:

1: Why are not all these refugees not seeking asylum in Arabic countries like the immensely wealthy Gulf States that have similar cultures to their own?

2: One of the Pillars of Islam is (courtesy of Wikipedia):

Zakah "Charity": with the exception of the Druze, all Ismā'īlī Madh'hab have practices resembling that of Sunni and Twelver Muslims with the addition of the characteristic Shī'a khums: payment of 1/8th of one's unspent money at the end of the year to the imām. The Ismā'īlīs pay 12.5% of their monthly gross income to the Imām - an amount which includes zakat and khums, which goes to the central accounts and then spent on welfare of the humankind like education and health projects. One of the major examples of these projects is the Aga Khan Development Network, that is one of the biggest welfare networks of the world. Thus, Ismā'īlīs believe that as Muhammad was designated to take zakāt from the believers in the past, it is now the duty to pay the imām or his representative. The Druze practice hifzu l-'Ikhwān "Protection of One's Brothers" instead of paying a fee, a culturally complex practice of interdependence.

So, how much have the Gulf State contributed to the welfare of their fellow Muslims? What charity have they shown?

[LJay]

Perhaps it has something to do with the perception that Germany is possessed of a social welfare system and does not have constant bombing and warfare within its borders. Which of the Arabic countries would fill that bill?

[Thundanton]

just simply for one reason, Arab's don't care about each other, they are selfish, or else they would have been helping the Palestinians long ago. Us Europeans actually care about the whole world... although we can't afford it this time but yeah...

[Cuddly]

just simply for one reason, Arab's don't care about each other, they are selfish, or else they would have been helping the Palestinians long ago. Us Europeans actually care about the whole world... although we can't afford it this time but yeah...

That's racist and false. For starters there are millions of europeans who don't give a shit about the world.

Obviously these people need help, but how can we help so many?

[Emiliano]

It's been a while since I learned about German history, but after WW2 wasn't it specified that Germany had to provide asylum to refugees fleeing war and persecution? Or am I imagining that? Maybe that contributes to the appeal?

I also think it's interesting that we are certainly being shown images of the German people as a whole supporting and welcoming the refugees from Syria, but from Turkish friends I have who have family in Germany, ethnic Germans are not very accepting of the Turkish population that lives there already.

I do think this is a major humanitarian crisis, and I am glad to see countries putting aside religious and cultural differences by taking in their fellow human beings in need.

[jimcrackcorn]

With that many people arriving,,, the only solution is to create large camps for these folks to live in. There's just no way any country can absorb so many people all at once without significant problems with housing & feeding them, and many of them will need medical care also. A complete infrastructure will need to be put in place; they'll need a police force, temporary medical facilities, lots of toilet facilities, recreational facilities, etc.

I have always detested people being put in refugee camps, but what other choice is there when you have thousands all seeking refuge at once.

Hopefully, this will be temporary and these folks can return to their home counties some day in the near future.

[verysimple]

It surely cannot have passed anyone's notice that hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria and Afghanistan principally, are travelling to Europe (mainly to Germany) in search of asylum, a fact that will eventually cost the European Union billions of dollars.

Two thoughts:

1: Why are not all these refugees not seeking asylum in Arabic countries like the immensely wealthy Gulf States that have similar cultures to their own?

2: One of the Pillars of Islam is (courtesy of Wikipedia):



So, how much have the Gulf State contributed to the welfare of their fellow Muslims? What charity have they shown?

The Gulf countries aren't taking anyone because A: the society will be pissed!
B: like you said, they would have to spend billions of dollars and they just can't do that since they value money more than people!

C: They are selfish assholes and I hate them!

[verysimple]

just simply for one reason, Arab's don't care about each other, they are selfish, or else they would have been helping the Palestinians long ago. Us Europeans actually care about the whole world... although we can't afford it this time but yeah...

Well, you can't really generalize like that... No two people are the same. Read some history about the middle east you'll find out that Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon all tried to help and free Palestine from the Isreali occupation... And they all did some attacks on the israeli forces but they couldn't really do it because Israel is backed up by the UN ... So yea, Some Arabs care.. others don't ! That's how life is but not everyone is careless

[LONDONER]

Thanks for your reply VerySimple, it's nice to get the opinion of someone in the midst of the crisis. Jordan in fact has done a great deal and has taken in two million migrants and this, for a country that has little to no water, is very generous indeed.

[DrivingTour]

To be correct, people from Syria and Iraq don't go mainly to Germany in seek of asylum. They try to save their lifes when the war is near.
Mostly the territories where those 'refugees' are are situated in ISIS controlled lands. Mostly that is Syria, Iraq and Libya. People just try to find a safe place when they go out of their lands. Oh, yes, and Afghanistan. I forgot that. People who go to Europe are considered as 'war victims'.
One of the main problems, the main problem is that where these 'victims' would live. Or at least where they'd come to. Yet they come to Hungary and Serbia. Hungary told to Austrian authorities that they don't want to get Arabian immigrants. Serbian Prime Minister, yet, as it seems, wants to come to EU after taking a good part of these Arabian migrants to his land. Of course, nobody will take Serbia in EU. At least, that could be, and will be, a problem for Serbia only. For Serbia, for Hungary, for Latvia, for Lithuania and, probably, for Macedonia. Those migrants will never come to EU.
These migrants would never be a part of EU. They just will live in these lands and never would be real Europeans.
Arabians don't come to Arabian Peninsula because they have no places to go. Saudi Arabia will never take them, they already have 70% of foreign citizens in their country as the country workers, Yemen is 'under war', Dubai, Qatar and Oman are too expensive or hard-to-come lands, also there wouldn't be as safe as in Europe can be. For Arabians, of course.
Egypt, Libya or Lebanon and Morocco are pretty far and still not 'pretty safe'. Except Egypt. And again, that is better to come to Europe. For Arabians.
Well, that's it.