I'm 23, but no guy below "35" wants me.

[shyl4l]

Tut!! Tut!! Tut!! Tut!! I think you must be complement hunting either that or you need to go to to opticians.Think yourself lucky. You my thin that I have not put a picture of my face up because i'm trying to hide myself sadly Nooooo its because I look like iv been hit in the face by a truck hmmm ponder ponder ponder???? That is probably because I did get hit in the face by a truck but I was ugly as sin before that anyway so it didnt make much diffrence. If you wana see the picture pm me

[Insertnamehere]

Dude you're more than fine! (especially with a beard)

I'd say you start looking somewhere else for a partner, I'm sure plenty of other folks will think so too.

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My advice is the same as the last two times you did a thread like this...

I don't even remember making it twice before. But I'm sure I'll occasionally make it until I get a boyfriend... which may be another 60 years until I meet the grave.

Wanting a guy near our age is cool, why not? It is off the wall to think that guys your age do not think you attractive. Just keep looking.

What I mean about the hair is that it looks like you are trying to make it behave in a certain style. I'd talk to a good hairdresser about something a little more easy going and less structured--the comb it back with your fingers sort of thing. A new haircut might just put a glint in your eye. If you don't like it you can always change it. That's what's great about hair.

But take the advice and comments only for what you think they are worth. The real trick is to go for a "Don't worry. Be happy." outlook on life. Others will notice. I saw this kid at the grocery store tonight. He kept breaking into a little dance in time with the store Muzak. He was just having a good time right there with the canned peas. It was hard not to feel better just watching him. Happy is contagious.

My facial features don't allow for a short cut, like buzz cut. It looks ugly. The big nose, lips, forehead, etc. Only soft features can pull off a buzz cut well. Also I have Jew hair (thanks Jewish grandpa) so it's gonna be hard for anything to look good. My hair takes forever to grow back. These pictures are after months of growth. So I can't afford to get a bad haircut or it's months of being even uglier.

I'm so confused by what guys want or don't want. Like...

Dude you're more than fine! (especially with a beard)

I'd say you start looking somewhere else for a partner, I'm sure plenty of other folks will think so too.

I either get told to shave or grow a beard (and it won't grow much more than the pics if at all). It's confusing to me because I feel like I don't look good with anything. Different guys saying what haircuts look good and it's just ugh so confusing.

And where do I even look?

[Insertnamehere]

I'm so confused by what guys want or don't want. Like...

I either get told to shave or grow a beard (and it won't grow much more than the pics if at all). It's confusing to me because I feel like I don't look good with anything. Different guys saying what haircuts look good and it's just ugh so confusing.

And where do I even look?

Welcome to the world of humans, we all like different things.

Honestly, you are worrying a bit too much about what OTHERS want from you. Don't let yourself go down that path.

Beard or no beard your face is fine, I am telling you as much, others have told you. Clearly, there a collection of gay males out there that will find you equally pleasing to the eye.

We can't be attractive for everyone, but there is ALWAYS someone who will find us attractive.

I don't know about where you live. College, bars, events, etc. All good places to meet people.

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Welcome to the world of humans, we all like different things.

Honestly, you are worrying a bit too much about what OTHERS want from you. Don't let yourself go down that path.

Beard or no beard your face is fine, I am telling you as much, others have told you. Clearly, there a collection of gay males out there that will find you equally pleasing to the eye.

We can't be attractive for everyone, but there is ALWAYS someone who will find us attractive.

I don't know about where you live. College, bars, events, etc. All good places to meet people.

I've never been able to please anyone my entire life and I just want someone to be happy with me without taking advantage of me... I can't get that to happen. I just want someone to be pleased with me for once.

And that's the thing- they DON'T find me pleasing. Obviously. Or I wouldn't be making this thread.

And ehh I disagree. There's some people universally considered ugly.

The nearest college is over an hour away but I'll try to find places to socialize.

[himself]

You look nice, in a 'geeky' kind of way. I kind of understand why people say you look like you're on drugs - you've got dark eyes. But that isn't really a bad thing. Dark eyes are bad ass. I actually do look like a drug addict. If you're going on reactions to your appearance from men on Grindr or something like that, then you shouldn't worry. maybe those men want people who look like porn stars. You do have an innocent look about you. Maybe that's why older men try to pounce on you. Not that there's anything wrong with older men but it can be frustrating if the only interest you get is from older men.

Also, I think it's really rude to tell someone they're too ugly for them. They should tell you (not you as in the OP, you really are 'bookishly' cute) that you're too beautiful for them.

[Borg69]

I've never been able to please anyone my entire life and I just want someone to be happy with me without taking advantage of me... I can't get that to happen. I just want someone to be pleased with me for once.

And that's the thing- they DON'T find me pleasing. Obviously. Or I wouldn't be making this thread.

And ehh I disagree. There's some people universally considered ugly.

The nearest college is over an hour away but I'll try to find places to socialize.

Again, I'm going to tell you, you are NOT ugly. By any means. You're actually quite adorable, if I may say so. The problem is you're using those apps to find a guy (of quality). You can't just order up a guy like you're buying a shirt off Amazon, or ordering a Pizza to be delivered in 30 minutes or less. Life just doesn't work that way (very often).

Look for some gay activities in your area to join... photography, hiking, bowling, baking, bars? Dance clubs... whatever! As long as it's out in the real world with human face to face interaction.

While you're there, SMILE. Interact with people. Talk. Ask Questions. Be friendly. Flirt a little. In mere months, you'll be here asking how to fight the guys off with a stick.

[InbetweenDreams]

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You say you never been able to please someone? What do you mean by that, sexually? Or, just as a person. Now don't get me wrong there is that "confused" crowd who don't know what the fuck they want out of life (and my take on that is that MOST people don't...even when they're 40). If you're not able to please someone sexually or worried about it well my advice is learn how. I'm kind of in that same boat, I don't really know what I'm doing...like I know the mechanics of things but trying to clue myself on what feels good to other people, getting comfortable, etc...That's what I need to work on...since I have been "trying" (in quotes for a reason) to find a relationship for ever and ever I never got any experience.

"trying" is in quotes because trying doesn't do it...So STOP TRYING to please someone, many reasons...everything from people might feel that you're fake when you're not, or too camp, too nice, too over the top... We're not really doing a good job of being ourselves when we're head over heals.... I mean I don't act like I'm in a crush with the friends I hang out with...so be the person you are when you're hanging out having a good time with friends...stop worrying about being judged...even though you might be. Bottom line is whether they get cold feet about you now or...two months later..or whatever doesn't change anything.

Try to learn to just enjoy the ride, slow down, stop worrying if you're going to catch the first train or not. Analogies...analogies...

They can be cute, successful, have a nice ass...but as soon as the douchery comes out...my dick goes limp for them. I'm serious too, I mean if you lose my respect, you're no longer attractive in my eyes.

I also think you're putting these guys on a pedestal...It is a nice feeling to make someone feel happy, but make sure that it is BALANCED, make sure you are happy...don't fool yourself with that I'm happy because he's happy horseshit...HE needs to be giving back around 50%... If you're putting all the effort into something, there's a reason...and don't blame yourself, guys are flakes...sometimes I've been guilty... decided I didn't want to meet someone last minute because I get a weird vibe, or feel that they have been too pushy.

So read this, read what other people have posted...read it again..

I don't think anyone can stress more that it is not how you look...you look fine... Everyone "thinks" they should look a certain way, but they don't... We're not all the same, some people are seen to be more attractive in general, you are more in that category...more so than myself...I'm just being objective...everyone has their tastes...however, I'm no Brad Pitt or whatever people are drooling over these days.. However, in a relationship, 20 years from now when were all fat and our legs look like cottage cheese the looks aren't going to matter so much. So go have fun, like I say, slow down, enjoy the ride. Don't make excuses to nullify the advice you have been given.

So go have fun and go get laid. :eyebrow-wiggle-smil

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You look nice, in a 'geeky' kind of way. I kind of understand why people say you look like you're on drugs - you've got dark eyes. But that isn't really a bad thing. Dark eyes are bad ass. I actually do look like a drug addict. If you're going on reactions to your appearance from men on Grindr or something like that, then you shouldn't worry. maybe those men want people who look like porn stars. You do have an innocent look about you. Maybe that's why older men try to pounce on you. Not that there's anything wrong with older men but it can be frustrating if the only interest you get is from older men.

Also, I think it's really rude to tell someone they're too ugly for them. They should tell you (not you as in the OP, you really are 'bookishly' cute) that you're too beautiful for them.

What do you mean by "dark eyes"? If you mean the color (of the iris), there's now a laser surgery to change them to blue. It's not publicly available in the USA yet, but once it is, and I have the money for it, I'm getting it. They have one in Spain but I'm not flying to Spain just to get it lol. And colored contacts don't look good to me and are uncomfortable. But anyway, I think lighter eyes will + my attractiveness level, so I can get a guy easier.

If you mean "crow's feet", I have a sleep disorder which causes them. I think that's why people made druggie comments. Nonetheless, I can look into surgeries for that too once I get some money.

And yeah, people assume I'm a virgin and love to try and take advantage of me.

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You say you never been able to please someone? What do you mean by that, sexually? Or, just as a person. Now don't get me wrong there is that "confused" crowd who don't know what the fuck they want out of life (and my take on that is that MOST people don't...even when they're 40). If you're not able to please someone sexually or worried about it well my advice is learn how. I'm kind of in that same boat, I don't really know what I'm doing...like I know the mechanics of things but trying to clue myself on what feels good to other people, getting comfortable, etc...That's what I need to work on...since I have been "trying" (in quotes for a reason) to find a relationship for ever and ever I never got any experience.

"trying" is in quotes because trying doesn't do it...So STOP TRYING to please someone, many reasons...everything from people might feel that you're fake when you're not, or too camp, too nice, too over the top... We're not really doing a good job of being ourselves when we're head over heals.... I mean I don't act like I'm in a crush with the friends I hang out with...so be the person you are when you're hanging out having a good time with friends...stop worrying about being judged...even though you might be. Bottom line is whether they get cold feet about you now or...two months later..or whatever doesn't change anything.

Try to learn to just enjoy the ride, slow down, stop worrying if you're going to catch the first train or not. Analogies...analogies...

They can be cute, successful, have a nice ass...but as soon as the douchery comes out...my dick goes limp for them. I'm serious too, I mean if you lose my respect, you're no longer attractive in my eyes.

I also think you're putting these guys on a pedestal...It is a nice feeling to make someone feel happy, but make sure that it is BALANCED, make sure you are happy...don't fool yourself with that I'm happy because he's happy horseshit...HE needs to be giving back around 50%... If you're putting all the effort into something, there's a reason...and don't blame yourself, guys are flakes...sometimes I've been guilty... decided I didn't want to meet someone last minute because I get a weird vibe, or feel that they have been too pushy.

So read this, read what other people have posted...read it again..

I don't think anyone can stress more that it is not how you look...you look fine... Everyone "thinks" they should look a certain way, but they don't... We're not all the same, some people are seen to be more attractive in general, you are more in that category...more so than myself...I'm just being objective...everyone has their tastes...however, I'm no Brad Pitt or whatever people are drooling over these days.. However, in a relationship, 20 years from now when were all fat and our legs look like cottage cheese the looks aren't going to matter so much. So go have fun, like I say, slow down, enjoy the ride. Don't make excuses to nullify the advice you have been given.

So go have fun and go get laid. :eyebrow-wiggle-smil

I meant that I can't please anybody at all. My parents, friends, managers at work, teachers, therapists, I'm considered a worthless fuck-up to all.

And I know you didn't mean literally, but I don't "get laid"... I've tried NSA sex. It's not right for me.

[Insertnamehere]

I've never been able to please anyone my entire life

Stop that, right now.

Do not live your life focused on pleasing other people. That is not healthy at all.

As for anything else, I'll refer you to Axle's post above.